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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, this may be a touch off topic, but do you have any websites or books, Veterinary &amp; Technical or otherwise, that you could recommend regarding Metabolic Bone Disease?  I&#039;m trying to find (reputable, peer reviewed, and not just someone&#039;s opinion) on dietary calcium levels for a Sulcata, which as I read somewhere, has similar nutritional needs as our Desert Tortoises.

&lt;em&gt;Desert Tortoise Team responds: There are two books that we use regularly here at the DTCC:&lt;/em&gt;

1. &lt;em&gt; Reptile Medicine and Surgery&lt;/em&gt; by Mader
2.  &lt;em&gt;Infectious Diseases and Pathology of Reptiles&lt;/em&gt; by Jacobson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this may be a touch off topic, but do you have any websites or books, Veterinary &amp; Technical or otherwise, that you could recommend regarding Metabolic Bone Disease?  I&#8217;m trying to find (reputable, peer reviewed, and not just someone&#8217;s opinion) on dietary calcium levels for a Sulcata, which as I read somewhere, has similar nutritional needs as our Desert Tortoises.</p>
<p><em>Desert Tortoise Team responds: There are two books that we use regularly here at the DTCC:</em></p>
<p>1. <em> Reptile Medicine and Surgery</em> by Mader<br />
2.  <em>Infectious Diseases and Pathology of Reptiles</em> by Jacobson</p>
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		<title>By: Christa Cranston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christa Cranston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so happy to find your website. I am part of The Mojave Desert Land Trust where we are currently trying to save 955 acres of prime desert tortoise habitat- so important for their survival. Thank you for all your hard work!

We were hiking a week ago and found a baby tortoise turned on her back and very lethargic. We brought her home and rehydrated her really well but we noticed a hole on her under shell (about 3/4 of the way down from her head). There seems to be some gooey matter coming from this hole? Not sure if she was injured?

It has also been 1 week and she is not eating the natural plants I have been trying to feed her. She moves around quite a bit an then suddenly stops, closes her eyes and sleeps for some time. She has also pooped a few times. We would like to release her but not sure if she is sick or injured.

&lt;em&gt;Paula responds: Being a tortoise hugger myself, I completely understand your desire to save a helpless animal, especially when it&#039;s a baby. However, as you likely already know, it is unlawful to remove a desert tortoise from the wild for any reason without permission from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  In instances like this where you find an injured tortoise, you should call FWS immediately for their recommendation and direction. The possible injury you describe sounds like the yolk scar may not have closed up yet - that&#039;s where the hatchling absorbed the yolk it still had when it hatched.  If it is oozing, that may be a sign of infection, and it should be checked by an experienced tortoise veterinarian right away.  Since tortoises should be hibernating during this time of year, it is not surprising that the hatchling is lethargic and not eating - right now she should be in a burrow hibernating until spring.  Since you found her on the surface and not in a burrow, she may be sick or perhaps was too weak to return to her burrow after sunning, or she may have been dropped by a raven or other predator that was carrying her away. 

Regardless of what may be wrong with her or how you found her, you cannot put her back in the desert without permission from FWS, and putting her back in the desert during the winter is almost surely a death sentence due to the shocking temperature change she will have to endure.  I strongly recommend that you contact your local FWS office as soon as possible to ask them how to handle this situation before the hatchling&#039;s condition worsens, or if you live in the state of Nevada, you should call the desert tortoise hotline pickup service (702-593-9027) to have the hatchling picked up and brought here to our facility today so our veterinary technician can evaluate her as soon as possible.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so happy to find your website. I am part of The Mojave Desert Land Trust where we are currently trying to save 955 acres of prime desert tortoise habitat- so important for their survival. Thank you for all your hard work!</p>
<p>We were hiking a week ago and found a baby tortoise turned on her back and very lethargic. We brought her home and rehydrated her really well but we noticed a hole on her under shell (about 3/4 of the way down from her head). There seems to be some gooey matter coming from this hole? Not sure if she was injured?</p>
<p>It has also been 1 week and she is not eating the natural plants I have been trying to feed her. She moves around quite a bit an then suddenly stops, closes her eyes and sleeps for some time. She has also pooped a few times. We would like to release her but not sure if she is sick or injured.</p>
<p><em>Paula responds: Being a tortoise hugger myself, I completely understand your desire to save a helpless animal, especially when it&#8217;s a baby. However, as you likely already know, it is unlawful to remove a desert tortoise from the wild for any reason without permission from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  In instances like this where you find an injured tortoise, you should call FWS immediately for their recommendation and direction. The possible injury you describe sounds like the yolk scar may not have closed up yet &#8211; that&#8217;s where the hatchling absorbed the yolk it still had when it hatched.  If it is oozing, that may be a sign of infection, and it should be checked by an experienced tortoise veterinarian right away.  Since tortoises should be hibernating during this time of year, it is not surprising that the hatchling is lethargic and not eating &#8211; right now she should be in a burrow hibernating until spring.  Since you found her on the surface and not in a burrow, she may be sick or perhaps was too weak to return to her burrow after sunning, or she may have been dropped by a raven or other predator that was carrying her away. </p>
<p>Regardless of what may be wrong with her or how you found her, you cannot put her back in the desert without permission from FWS, and putting her back in the desert during the winter is almost surely a death sentence due to the shocking temperature change she will have to endure.  I strongly recommend that you contact your local FWS office as soon as possible to ask them how to handle this situation before the hatchling&#8217;s condition worsens, or if you live in the state of Nevada, you should call the desert tortoise hotline pickup service (702-593-9027) to have the hatchling picked up and brought here to our facility today so our veterinary technician can evaluate her as soon as possible.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Norma Stone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.sandiegozoo.org/blog/2009/04/29/desert-tortoise-team/comment-page-1/#comment-483958</link>
		<dc:creator>Norma Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is out again today!  He had gone back in after I emailed you before but now he is out again.  I am afraid he is going to starve if his metabolism doesn&#039;t shut down for the winter. I am thinking about bringing him in and putting him under a light until our weather isn&#039;t so unstable.  Cold one day and warm the next.  He really has a good home outside.  The styrofoam is as good as a burrow and he is on the ground again so I don&#039;t know how else to keep him cold enough to stay in hibernation.  How long can they go without eating if their not in hibernation?  Sure don&#039;t want to lose the little guy.
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Paula responds: With the weather being so unstable, it&#039;s not unusual for tortoises to go in and out of their burrows until the colder weather sets in for good.  Here at the DTCC, we still have a few tortoises that come out every now and again, and I have heard reports from the field that as of yesterday, some wild tortoises were doing the same thing.  Not to worry - a tortoise can go for months without substantial nourishment, and up to a year without much fresh water.  If you bring him inside and put him under the heat lamp, you will not be able to put him back outside to hibernate - the drastic change in temperature may be too much for his body to handle.  As long as he ate well during the active season and you hydrated him recently, he should be okay.  Just keep an eye on him to make sure he goes into his burrow at night.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is out again today!  He had gone back in after I emailed you before but now he is out again.  I am afraid he is going to starve if his metabolism doesn&#8217;t shut down for the winter. I am thinking about bringing him in and putting him under a light until our weather isn&#8217;t so unstable.  Cold one day and warm the next.  He really has a good home outside.  The styrofoam is as good as a burrow and he is on the ground again so I don&#8217;t know how else to keep him cold enough to stay in hibernation.  How long can they go without eating if their not in hibernation?  Sure don&#8217;t want to lose the little guy.<br />
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Paula responds: With the weather being so unstable, it&#8217;s not unusual for tortoises to go in and out of their burrows until the colder weather sets in for good.  Here at the DTCC, we still have a few tortoises that come out every now and again, and I have heard reports from the field that as of yesterday, some wild tortoises were doing the same thing.  Not to worry &#8211; a tortoise can go for months without substantial nourishment, and up to a year without much fresh water.  If you bring him inside and put him under the heat lamp, you will not be able to put him back outside to hibernate &#8211; the drastic change in temperature may be too much for his body to handle.  As long as he ate well during the active season and you hydrated him recently, he should be okay.  Just keep an eye on him to make sure he goes into his burrow at night.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Norma Stone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.sandiegozoo.org/blog/2009/04/29/desert-tortoise-team/comment-page-1/#comment-483176</link>
		<dc:creator>Norma Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S to above.  I did put him in some warm water to hydrate him.  He did not drink and I might should have left him in longer but  I was afraid the water was getting a little chilly and I didn&#039;t want him wet when he went back to sleep.

&lt;em&gt;Paula responds: It is very important that your tortoise be allowed to hibernate naturally in the winter if he is healthy - his body needs the down time and it may ultimately help him to be a healthier adult as he gets older.  A tortoise should not go into hibernation with food in its belly because he will not be able to digest it - they need sunlight and heat for that.  You should feed your tortoise less when we move from summer to fall and stop feeding him in late Sept or early Oct.  However, we always recommend a good soak in water for 20 minutes every other week from April to October.  This allows the tortoise to void (pee or poop), which eliminates toxins and allows them to hydrate.  When temperatures fall below 45 degrees Fahrenheit, it&#039;s best to provide your tortoise with a burrow that goes into the ground.  Some people in the warmer parts of Arizona use above-ground dog kennels as burrows for their tortoises, but we always recommend a genuine burrow with a dirt floor - check out the Web site tortoisegroup.org and print out their adoption booklet because, although this group is not affiliated with the Zoo, they describe a burrow construction that we highly recommend.  This type of burrow will provide perfect protection from cold winters and scorching summers. Hope your tortoise enjoys a peaceful winter in a great burrow!&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S to above.  I did put him in some warm water to hydrate him.  He did not drink and I might should have left him in longer but  I was afraid the water was getting a little chilly and I didn&#8217;t want him wet when he went back to sleep.</p>
<p><em>Paula responds: It is very important that your tortoise be allowed to hibernate naturally in the winter if he is healthy &#8211; his body needs the down time and it may ultimately help him to be a healthier adult as he gets older.  A tortoise should not go into hibernation with food in its belly because he will not be able to digest it &#8211; they need sunlight and heat for that.  You should feed your tortoise less when we move from summer to fall and stop feeding him in late Sept or early Oct.  However, we always recommend a good soak in water for 20 minutes every other week from April to October.  This allows the tortoise to void (pee or poop), which eliminates toxins and allows them to hydrate.  When temperatures fall below 45 degrees Fahrenheit, it&#8217;s best to provide your tortoise with a burrow that goes into the ground.  Some people in the warmer parts of Arizona use above-ground dog kennels as burrows for their tortoises, but we always recommend a genuine burrow with a dirt floor &#8211; check out the Web site tortoisegroup.org and print out their adoption booklet because, although this group is not affiliated with the Zoo, they describe a burrow construction that we highly recommend.  This type of burrow will provide perfect protection from cold winters and scorching summers. Hope your tortoise enjoys a peaceful winter in a great burrow!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Norma Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norma Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came in from outside to see if I could get some info for my desert tortoise.  He has been in hibernation for about 6 weeks but today he is walking around.  Before he went into hibernation he had just the top of a small dog kennel over the top of him  without the bottom so he was on the dirt.  I had  styrofoam over the kennel  to keep the hot Arizona sun from making it too hot for him in the kennel.  When he went intyo hibernation I attached the bottom of the kennel  and put styrofoam in the bottom of the kennel and some stuff from the pet store over that for him to burrow in.  I also added more styrofoam around the kennel to keep him warmer.  I stuck my head under the styrofoam and it was pretty warm for him,  but not hot.    He does seem to like the dirt best so I took the bottom of the kennel off again but I am unsure about letting him sleep outside now since it is in the thirty&#039;s at night.  I don&#039;t know if I should feed him either.  I have read they should have an empty stomach before hibernating so I don&#039;t know what to do about feeding him.  I would appreciate some advice on whether to leave him out or bring him in and whether to feed him or not.  He is about 3 years old and this is the first year I have let him outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came in from outside to see if I could get some info for my desert tortoise.  He has been in hibernation for about 6 weeks but today he is walking around.  Before he went into hibernation he had just the top of a small dog kennel over the top of him  without the bottom so he was on the dirt.  I had  styrofoam over the kennel  to keep the hot Arizona sun from making it too hot for him in the kennel.  When he went intyo hibernation I attached the bottom of the kennel  and put styrofoam in the bottom of the kennel and some stuff from the pet store over that for him to burrow in.  I also added more styrofoam around the kennel to keep him warmer.  I stuck my head under the styrofoam and it was pretty warm for him,  but not hot.    He does seem to like the dirt best so I took the bottom of the kennel off again but I am unsure about letting him sleep outside now since it is in the thirty&#8217;s at night.  I don&#8217;t know if I should feed him either.  I have read they should have an empty stomach before hibernating so I don&#8217;t know what to do about feeding him.  I would appreciate some advice on whether to leave him out or bring him in and whether to feed him or not.  He is about 3 years old and this is the first year I have let him outside.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Paula!  Yes, the hibernating spot is her burrow in the side yard.  She did not void when she was awake and seems to have settled back to sleep.  We will continue to monitor her, but she does seem to be back to hibernating.  We had a long talk with our son, and he will not be bothering her again this winter.  Thank you again for your reassuring advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Paula!  Yes, the hibernating spot is her burrow in the side yard.  She did not void when she was awake and seems to have settled back to sleep.  We will continue to monitor her, but she does seem to be back to hibernating.  We had a long talk with our son, and he will not be bothering her again this winter.  Thank you again for your reassuring advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  We have a desert tortoise in southwest Arizona that has been hibernating for about one month.  My son and his friend woke the tortoise up and immediately told us about it; so I put the tortoise back in its hibernating spot.  Should I be concerned about her health?  Should I just keep and eye on her to be sure she goes back to sleep?  What signs of trouble should I look for?  If she does not settle down and go back to sleep, what should we do?  Thank you in advance for your advice! -Meg

&lt;em&gt;Paula responds:
As you obviously know, disturbing a desert tortoise during its hibernation can be physiologically very stressful for them. When you say you put the tortoise back in its &quot;hibernating spot,&quot; I am hoping you meant back in its burrow - that&#039;s the only safe place for a hibernating tortoise, unless you have her overwintering in a box in your garage. In any case, if the tortoise didn&#039;t void (pee or poop), and the disturbance was minimal, then you did just the right thing by putting the tortoise back in its burrow or box. You should continue to monitor her for signs of trouble, such as voiding. Once you are sure she is hibernating again, she should be fine for the winter as long as she is not disturbed again.  If she doesn&#039;t go back to sleep, you may need to give her a good long soak in room-temperature water to ensure she&#039;s hydrated and then ease her back into hibernation by putting her in a room where you can lower the temperature just a bit every day until she&#039;s naturally hibernating again.  Of course, to be safe, if you have any concerns at all, you should bring her to a local reptile veterinarian or call your local turtle and tortoise group for advice.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  We have a desert tortoise in southwest Arizona that has been hibernating for about one month.  My son and his friend woke the tortoise up and immediately told us about it; so I put the tortoise back in its hibernating spot.  Should I be concerned about her health?  Should I just keep and eye on her to be sure she goes back to sleep?  What signs of trouble should I look for?  If she does not settle down and go back to sleep, what should we do?  Thank you in advance for your advice! -Meg</p>
<p><em>Paula responds:<br />
As you obviously know, disturbing a desert tortoise during its hibernation can be physiologically very stressful for them. When you say you put the tortoise back in its &#8220;hibernating spot,&#8221; I am hoping you meant back in its burrow &#8211; that&#8217;s the only safe place for a hibernating tortoise, unless you have her overwintering in a box in your garage. In any case, if the tortoise didn&#8217;t void (pee or poop), and the disturbance was minimal, then you did just the right thing by putting the tortoise back in its burrow or box. You should continue to monitor her for signs of trouble, such as voiding. Once you are sure she is hibernating again, she should be fine for the winter as long as she is not disturbed again.  If she doesn&#8217;t go back to sleep, you may need to give her a good long soak in room-temperature water to ensure she&#8217;s hydrated and then ease her back into hibernation by putting her in a room where you can lower the temperature just a bit every day until she&#8217;s naturally hibernating again.  Of course, to be safe, if you have any concerns at all, you should bring her to a local reptile veterinarian or call your local turtle and tortoise group for advice.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Ebbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Ebbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a desert tortoise that was given to us, it was probably on 5 to 6 inches in length and now it&#039;s about 8 maybe 9.  Problem seems to be the top shell seems a little soft and actually looks sunken in.  She eats (kale, brocoli, carrot, and sometimes apple) but not sure what&#039;s wrong and what can be done to help her.

&lt;em&gt;Paula responds: Without seeing your tortoise, it&#039;s hard to say what&#039;s wrong with her, but it sounds like your tortoise has developed metabolic bone disease. This happens when a tortoise does not receive the correct type and amount of heat, light, and/or nutrition.  If your tortoise always lives outside with a burrow and free access to sunlight, then your tortoise may be suffering from a nutritional deficiency. She needs to be eating a well-rounded complete tortoise diet that includes natural desert forage as well as supermarket produce.  If you don&#039;t have natural desert forage for your tortoise, you may want to consider using a prepared tortoise chow to supplement her diet.  While kale, broccoli, and carrots are acceptable food options for tortoises, apples and other sweet fruits should never be fed to tortoises, so you should start by eliminating apples from her diet. 

Other things to consider are heat and light. If your tortoise does not live outside, you need to build her a burrow and move her out there in the spring (it&#039;s too cold to move her now).  If you are keeping her inside with a UVB light and heat lamp, that&#039;s not enough - it can&#039;t replace the natural heat and light from the sun, and it does not allow her to thermoregulate as her body needs.  If tortoises don&#039;t get the exact type and amount of heat and light they need to maintain their metabolism and body functions, then they are not able to digest their food and their body begins to suck the calcium right out of their shell and bones, making them soft, while their food just sits in their stomach.  It can take a long time for a tortoise to become soft from insufficient heat and light, so if you can actually feel that she has gotten soft, it is urgent for you to get her the proper heat and light right away.  It can take months for her to recover from this type of situation, and in more advanced cases, tortoises cannot recover at all so I urge you to stop feeding her apples and put her under the correct heat and light as soon as possible.  Please let us know what changes you make and keep us posted on her progress!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a desert tortoise that was given to us, it was probably on 5 to 6 inches in length and now it&#8217;s about 8 maybe 9.  Problem seems to be the top shell seems a little soft and actually looks sunken in.  She eats (kale, brocoli, carrot, and sometimes apple) but not sure what&#8217;s wrong and what can be done to help her.</p>
<p><em>Paula responds: Without seeing your tortoise, it&#8217;s hard to say what&#8217;s wrong with her, but it sounds like your tortoise has developed metabolic bone disease. This happens when a tortoise does not receive the correct type and amount of heat, light, and/or nutrition.  If your tortoise always lives outside with a burrow and free access to sunlight, then your tortoise may be suffering from a nutritional deficiency. She needs to be eating a well-rounded complete tortoise diet that includes natural desert forage as well as supermarket produce.  If you don&#8217;t have natural desert forage for your tortoise, you may want to consider using a prepared tortoise chow to supplement her diet.  While kale, broccoli, and carrots are acceptable food options for tortoises, apples and other sweet fruits should never be fed to tortoises, so you should start by eliminating apples from her diet. </p>
<p>Other things to consider are heat and light. If your tortoise does not live outside, you need to build her a burrow and move her out there in the spring (it&#8217;s too cold to move her now).  If you are keeping her inside with a UVB light and heat lamp, that&#8217;s not enough &#8211; it can&#8217;t replace the natural heat and light from the sun, and it does not allow her to thermoregulate as her body needs.  If tortoises don&#8217;t get the exact type and amount of heat and light they need to maintain their metabolism and body functions, then they are not able to digest their food and their body begins to suck the calcium right out of their shell and bones, making them soft, while their food just sits in their stomach.  It can take a long time for a tortoise to become soft from insufficient heat and light, so if you can actually feel that she has gotten soft, it is urgent for you to get her the proper heat and light right away.  It can take months for her to recover from this type of situation, and in more advanced cases, tortoises cannot recover at all so I urge you to stop feeding her apples and put her under the correct heat and light as soon as possible.  Please let us know what changes you make and keep us posted on her progress!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Janie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Az and have 2 desert tortoises that were given to me.  They were  born in captivity.  They are appx. 3 years old.  My question is can I plant ivy in their enclosure?  I have some ivy that I have grown from cuttings I picked up outside a hotel in California.  I can&#039;t seem to find anywhere if it is safe or harmful.  
Thank you
Janie

&lt;em&gt;Paula responds: There are so many types of ivy that I would need to know the species of the plant, or at least the genus so I can narrow it down.  When in doubt, don&#039;t do it!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Az and have 2 desert tortoises that were given to me.  They were  born in captivity.  They are appx. 3 years old.  My question is can I plant ivy in their enclosure?  I have some ivy that I have grown from cuttings I picked up outside a hotel in California.  I can&#8217;t seem to find anywhere if it is safe or harmful.<br />
Thank you<br />
Janie</p>
<p><em>Paula responds: There are so many types of ivy that I would need to know the species of the plant, or at least the genus so I can narrow it down.  When in doubt, don&#8217;t do it!</em></p>
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		<title>By: liz from AZ.</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz from AZ.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello tortoise lovers!  I have more a few more questions regarding food. I pulled all the weeds around my house and I&#039;m wondering if any of these plants are safe for the tortoise babies:
 
common name                            proper name

red spiderling                             beerhaavia coccenia

common purslane                       portulaca oleracea

dallisgrass                                  paspalum dilatatum

wild lettuce/prickly lettuce         lactuca serrida

butterfly bush (not a weed)        buddleja marrubifolia

also, what other types of &quot;mallow&quot;  are good  for tortoises besides globe mallow?  Thank you all so much. You all do such great work. Can people come and visit the Las Vegas sight? Any possible volunteer type work? Thanks again!
Liz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello tortoise lovers!  I have more a few more questions regarding food. I pulled all the weeds around my house and I&#8217;m wondering if any of these plants are safe for the tortoise babies:</p>
<p>common name                            proper name</p>
<p>red spiderling                             beerhaavia coccenia</p>
<p>common purslane                       portulaca oleracea</p>
<p>dallisgrass                                  paspalum dilatatum</p>
<p>wild lettuce/prickly lettuce         lactuca serrida</p>
<p>butterfly bush (not a weed)        buddleja marrubifolia</p>
<p>also, what other types of &#8220;mallow&#8221;  are good  for tortoises besides globe mallow?  Thank you all so much. You all do such great work. Can people come and visit the Las Vegas sight? Any possible volunteer type work? Thanks again!<br />
Liz</p>
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