It has been several months since our new sun bear male, Francis, arrived on the scene at the San Diego Zoo (see post First Steps for Francis). We had hoped that he would adjust to his new surroundings easily and would become a new mate for our female, Marcella. We had had great success with our previous male, Dibu, who has since gone on to breed naturally with a female at the Columbus Zoo, and our fingers were crossed that Francis could replicate that success. However, our new resident has reminded us that every animal is an individual, each with a particular personality and needs.
For starters, Francis has been more shy and reticent about his time on exhibit. It is common practice that a new animal be given access to the exhibit and behind-the-scenes areas when acclimating them to a new space. The ability to choose where they spend their time helps to mitigate any anxiety caused by the newness of their surroundings and allows them to explore the area at their own pace. However, when given access to his exhibit and bedrooms, Francis always chose to be out of the public eye, remaining in his bedroom. He hasn’t developed a level of comfort with his exhibit that we have seen with our other sun bears.
What’s more, Francis has been less than receptive to the presence of Marcella. Since Francis had gotten along well with at least one other female in his past, we thought he would take to our matriarch. She is, after all, a gentle bear and seasoned in social relationships with males. When she wasn’t rearing cubs, she had been housed each day with Dibu, and they got along just fine. With both bears having a positive social history, our hopes were high. Unfortunately, their social introductions did not live up to our expectations.
On our first attempt, Marcella did her best. She showed interest in Francis with a decided lack of aggression during social encounters through a door. The male, however, was less enthusiastic. Francis escalated the interaction to aggression and made it clear he wasn’t ready to share his space with our resident female. So we backed off.
A few months later, Marcella came into estrus. We decided it was an opportune time to try again. Not only had Francis had plenty of time to become familiar with his surroundings, but the change in our female’s breeding status might entice our male to be more accepting of her. We tried another social introduction across a door, and Marcella had all the right moves. She was clearly near the peak of her estrus, and she backed up to him and took great pains to demonstrate how non-threatening she was. Unfortunately, Francis did not respond in-kind, and he was once again aggressive. The pairing was unsuccessful.
This reminded me of how things used to be with our giant pandas oh-so-many years ago when Shi Shi was our male. Despite panda Bai Yun’s strong, positive behavior, Shi Shi rejected her out-of-hand time and time again. We tried enticing him every way we could: carefully monitored social introductions, pen swaps to increase scent exchange, audio playbacks to heighten his awareness. None of it worked, and any time Bai Yun got close to him, Shi Shi fought her off. In his many years here, he never mated naturally.
We haven’t given up on Francis. He has been placed in an off-exhibit area where he can get a little human social attention, which he is receptive to. He gets lots of enrichment and TLC. And we are swapping scent between Marcella and Francis at least once each week so they can continue to be aware of each other. It is our objective that at some point in the future we will try a social pairing again.
It is critical that we don’t give up. There is no self-sustaining captive population of sun bears anywhere in North America or Asia, and the wild population is on the decline. Since Dibu moved away from San Diego (a good move if one wants to promote increased genetic diversity in the zoo-based bears), no cubs have survived to be added to the captive population in the U.S. We are just going to have to work that much harder to make things happen for Francis and Marcella. It’s important for these two individuals as it is for the species as a whole.
Suzanne Hall is a senior research technician for the San Diego Zoo Institute for Conservation Research. Read her previous post, Bai Yun: Hero Mother.


Is artificial insemination an option in this case? That’s how we got Hua Mei, even though Shi Shi wouldn’t mate with Bai Yun.
We are considering this. However, I know of no case in which AI has been confirmed to be successful with sun bears. Challenges abound.
How sad. Hope they will start to like each other!
Thanks for your always very interesting stories, told with so much love for the animals. Really appreciate your work!
Hi! I just read your article about the 2 sun bears, Francis and Marcella. It looks like to me that Marcella will have to wait for a long time for Francis to get thru his shyness stage and be the big boy bear that he is. I hope that these 2 bears will be able to work out their differences, be friends, then be girlfriend & boyfriend together. Then, someday, we will be seeing a little baby sunbear running around the yard with his mom! Hope this will work out for you all!
Had a great time watching the Atlanta pandas on the AZ pandacam today. I watched who I think was either Yang Yang or Xi Lan playing with that HUGE beachball on the cam. He was trying to get that big ball up on that teepee log structure that he was sitting on, but didn’t get it there; he dropped it! Then, he decided to take a nap right where he was at. Then, the cam switched over to the other dayroom where Lun Lun and Po were at. Lun was in the hammock eating her boo, and Po was up on the log structure eating a little bit of boo himself. At 9 1/2 months, he should be able to eat small amounts of boo leaves to start with, then graduate to the small stalks. He’s still nursing, too. I figured out that after his first birthday in November, he will be 18 months old in May, 2012, which will be very close to weaning time for him. That will bring Lun back into a possible estrus cycle once the weaning is done, but she will be having a late estrus cycle if she does have one next year. I don’t know of any female panda other than Ya Ya in Memphis that has a summer estrus cycle, so I’m hoping that Lun will have one and maybe have another baby panda late next year. I also watched some of the videos that the AZ panda keepers took of Yang Yang’s bday party with his ice cake and big beach ball. He loved playing with that beach ball and jumping on it, and he even rolled over on it! Also, there’s a video of Xi Lan’s bday party with his ice cake that he tore up! He even hugged it and rolled himself all over that cake! That was funny coming from Xi Man! He finally got it to the point that he was able to get those skinny boo stalks out of the cake to eat them (after he took the top of the cake off)! There were other vids of Xi Lan and his half of a tub he was playing with, and another vid of Po tackling the tire on the floor. Po fits into the tire very nicely, but Lun just couldn’t fit herself into that tire no matter how much she tried! Xi Lan had a lot of fun with that half tub just rolling around on it and in it, and trying to chew on it. They were fun to watch.
Well, gonna get back to the pandacams. The NZ pandacams are having issues today; they won’t come up! Will be back later on!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL
Oh, I had such high hopes for Marcella and Francis. Marcella loved having the cubbies. Perhaps with a little more time, Francis will be more comfortable and realize what a sweetheart Marcella is.
Good news about Dibu (AKA Ralph)!! Will they keep this papa bear busy and move him to other zoos?! But of course, all the sun bears cannot have just one father. Is there a shortage of male sun bears? Pagi and her sister Bulan, and Ting Ting all live together in Oakland Zoo with no male.
We aren’t giving up! But… thus far Dibu is the only male who seems able to get the job done. So while there isn’t a shortage of males, there appears to be a shortage of males willing/able to breed.
In a perfect world, we get the AI process worked out for these animals and utilize Francis as a donor for AI for Bulan, who is of age, and Pagi, when she is old enough. (Ting Ting has for years been acyclic and is probably not capable of pregnancy.) Francis is the only breeding-aged male on the West Coast, after all. But we are a long way away from this being a perfect world for our sun bears.
In a few years our youngster Palu will be ready to breed, and hopefully he will succeed with Suntil up at the Woodland Park Zoo. We hear that he is doing well up there, and those two bears have already adapted to living together. That, at least, is very positive news!
Thank you for this info, Suzanne. I’m very happy to hear about Palu and Suntil. That sounds like they are indeed off to a good start and Palu is happily settled in at Woodland Park.
Given time, I’m hoping as well that the AI process can be perfected for sun bears. Research must be arduous, especially with so few bears to work with.
And I’m hoping that Francis will come around once the keepers shower him with TLC and special enrichments. C’mon Francis, Marcella is waiting………
We’ll give Pagi, Bulan and Ting Ting a hello from you when we go see them on the 10th of October!
Maybe if he had a more masculine sounding name it would boost his confidence! Never could get used to Francis as a male name. Try Butch, Dutch, King! Not Leslie or Percy!
Do Sun Bears like honey? Put some honey on the female!
Linda, I was wondering the same thing about this male bear being named Francis which can be a boy and girl name. I like your idea of putting a little bit of honey on Marcella, and maybe that might get Francis interested in her! I think sun bears do like honey. Hope someone in the SDZ food department can verify that for us!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL
Moderator’s note: I can verify that sun bears do like honey. But I think Marcella is sweet enough
Dibu’s other house name was “Ralph,” so perhaps there is something to this
News from ZA….Mei Lan first born cub is a HE NOT A SHE. Read the update today….panda never cease to amaze
Mei Lan had a baby panda cub??? I did not know that at all!! Pandas International never did put that in their email newsletter this month! When did she have her cub–day, date, time? Hope someone can get some pics and/or video of Mei Lan and her first baby panda for us! And, she had a boy! Thanks for the info, Maureen! Always love Mei Lan, and congrats to her being a first time mom! Lun Lun is now a grandmother!! YEA!!!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL
Moderator’s note: Maureen meant that Mei Lan is Zoo Atlanta’s first-born cub.
OK. I went to Atlanta Zoo’s panda page to read that update, and I have to apologize to Maureen for misinterpreting her comment about Mei Lan. Mei Lan IS the boy panda?? WOW!!! I read thru that update, and I can understand how difficult it can be to find out the true gender of baby pandas. The Chinese people at Wolong/Bifengxia and Chengdu have got that down to a science, and all of the American zoo vets that care for the pandas here in the USA are really learning how to do this in the right way. We all want to know if the baby panda cub is a boy or girl in a hurry, and sometimes the vets do their best to determine the right gender as quick as they can see the development on the baby panda. Well, maybe when any of the 4 zoos here in the USA have a new baby panda cub, the vets will probably take things a little bit slower and wait a few more days to really get a good determination of the cub’s gender. We’ll see if that’s the case next year. Now, we will have to get used to saying HE instead of SHE when it comes to mentioning Mei Lan. We were all wondering why she was not going into estrus this year! Now we all know the reason! Instead of being a mother, HE can be a very productive daddy! Good luck, Mei Lan! Glad that Chengdu keepers kept Mei Lan’s name, too!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL
Sorry – meant that Mei Lan is A HE NOT A SHE
Panda fans, I’m sooo confused! Our sweet little girl, Mei Lan, is now found out to be a boy! Hope Xi Lan and Po can handle this to say nothing of the Mommie Monster.
However, as I vividly recall, there was not doubt on our part about Yun Zi being a boy, as we watched him in the den before he even had his first check up which confirmed what we had already seen.
Dear Auntie Mary,
Hee Hee, I am all boy. My mummy will say O boy! Hee Hee.
Yunz
Do we think the Mommie Monster knew all along and just didn’t tell us?
Maybe Auntie Lunnie did say but no one could understand Pandanese?
I agree with Yunz; Mommy Lun Lun knew but we just couldn’t understand her!!
That explains I never get to meet Francis. Was he housed in a more closed environment in his previous life?
In his previous facility he apparently had access to bedrooms and exhibits all day, every day. He was in his bedroom a lot. Somehow this wasn’t too much of a problem for their zoo guests…. perhaps the female did better on exhibit, so people got to see her enough. Or perhaps, since he ultimately accepted her as a social companion, he felt comfortable on exhibit because he had a buddy with him while he was out there.
In the end, we aren’t really sure why he is having adjustment issues. We are working with him, however, and are prepared to be patient.
When we were there for the Black and White Overnight at the end of July, we went to the Sun Bear enclosure and we did not see either of the bears. I do hope Francis will come around soon and see how sweet Marcella is.
WOW, Jie Jie Mei Lan is a Ge Ge!
I am, as always, in complete awe of the patience you keepers demonstrate. I know you’re working with individual personalities that are going to respond differently to various situations, but I’m sure it’s got to be wildly frustrating when you’ve got a Bai or a Marcella, gals who have madd skillz and are doing everything right, and your Shi Shi or Francis isn’t responding the way his instincts should be directing him! Silly boys.
I was surprised, though, to read in the comments that sun bears haven’t reproduced successfully with AI. Are they that different from pandas (which, from what I’ve seen, appear to have one of the most challenging birth cycles EVER!!!)?
Poor Marcella. Rejection is a bummer!Hope shecan keep her spirits up.
Have you seen the exhibit that Francis had at the Woodland Park Zoo? It was really lush and covered with plantings. Its no wonder that he is having trouble adjusting to the new exhibit.
Is Dibu still at the Columbus Zoo? Two bears are listed on their website and he’s not one of them
Suzanne responds: Dibu’s other collection name is Ralph.
No Ralph listed. The only bears listed are Sabah and Xander.
Suzanne responds: Those bears are now at Zoo Atlanta.
Thanks, I guess they don’t update their website to often!
Moderator’s note: Maintaining websites is a full-time job
That is absolutely mind blowing. Well, now we better understand when researchers take their time in determining the gender of newborn cubs! Clearly, it’s trickier than we civilians out here in the blogosphere believe.
At least the pandas know the difference.
It might have been amusing, however, if Mei Lan had been put into the breeding program before his gender had been determined. Oops!
Fonsia, remember how long it took SDZ to reveal Zhennie’s gender? We were getting impatient and couldn’t understand what could be so hard. Well, I guess this goes to show that it’s not easy with pandas.
Some nice pictures of Zhen Zhen and one of her neighbors high up in trees!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40313403@N00/6177185109/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40313403@N00/6177184249/
I have posted pictures of the collective appearance of the 12 cubs from the Chengdu Base on September 26, 2011, starting at http://www.flickr.com/photos/44341735@N02/6186328600/
The links to the sites where I got the pictures are under each picture.
Hi, Danielle! Thanks for putting up the link for the pics that were taken at Chengdu, China! I did not know that they had 12 baby pandas that were born there this year! That is awesome! These little cubs are SOOOOOO CUTE!!!!!
And, ADORABLE!!!! I would just love to hold one and hug that cub! I did notice that one cub has a lighter black color on the shoulders that’s almost grey. That’s a little bit unusual, isn’t it? I read earlier this year of a cub that was born in China that had the brown color on the shoulders and hind legs. I’m guessing that the mom has a recessive gene for these unusual colors. Now, I’m wondering how many cubs Wolong/Bifengxia has had this year! Will probably have to wait until Suzanne Braden from Pandas International comes back home from China and gets her new newsletter out to find that out.
Gonna go for now!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL
You can read about the characteristics of the pandas from the Qinling Mountains on www(dot)pandas(dot)fr/index.php/component/content/article/182.html
You can get the translation using the “Select Language” dropdown menu at the top of the page. But here is the translation of the part regarding the important differences of the subspecies from the Qinling Mountains:
“The Qinling Mountains pandas have significantly smaller skulls and larger molars than those of Sichuan.
Added to this, the comparison of the coat color showed that pandas in Sichuan have black spots and a white ventral fur while Qinling pandas have dark brown spots and brown ventral pelage.”
Chari, the cub with what looks like not-quite-black-hair could be this female cub, Cheng Ji’s daughter, born on August 15. It could be due to her cubby’s longer white hair that is not quite gone yet.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86799970@N00/6176786397/
Her info card: http://www.flickr.com/photos/86799970@N00/6177314846/
Her twin brother, born on August 16, seems to have less white cubby’s hair left. He was much smaller at birth, only 63g. http://www.flickr.com/photos/86799970@N00/6177314308/
His info card: http://www.flickr.com/photos/86799970@N00/6177314100/
I was just watching gao gao playing with his enrichment toy, how cute. I have never seen him do anything other then eat and sleep. I just love these bears!
In case there is any doubt, here is a link to a series of photos that show once and for all Mei Lan is all boy.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86799970@N00/6177328504/
MaybeFrancis smells Dibu at the fence or elsewhere? So he stays in his bedroom where he has only his scent? Or maybe he is a she? Has anyone checked lately?
Only kidding! What is Francis favorite scent?Rub that all over Marcella and see what happens! I read that some males in the an imal world,never breed! Maybe Francis(BUTCH) is one of them? I wonder if the testes on males aways come down to their full height?Is that true? Maybe Butch has a way to go yet? Oh well, let us just love them all, whatever they do and whatever their gender. I am positive you all will solve this problem. We need little cubbies!
Mr Gao Gao is taking a nap with his enrichment bag this morning–wonder what’s inside?
Don’t be afraid, Francis, hang in there, boy.
Is Francis still at the zoo? Any progress?
I’ll have a blog update on Francis soon…