A few weeks ago, when giant panda Yun Zi’s weaning process was completed via his move to the upper bedroom area (see post Panda Yun Zi: On His Own), all eyes were on the pandas to see how they would manage this transition in their lives. Overshadowed by this event was the weaning, separation, and transition of our sun bear youngster, Palu. On the very same day that Yun Zi moved, Palu was also permanently separated from his mother.
You may recall that Palu was older than Yun Zi, born in October 2008, but had remained with Marcella, his mother, even after his sibling Pagi was weaned and moved several months ago. Although the mother-son pair had been ready to wean for some time, the logistics of weaning Palu and having him remain at the sun bear facility would have made things difficult. Unlike with the pandas, the sun bear facility does not have a distant space that a recently separated bear can be housed in. If we weaned Palu, he and Marcella would have continued to reside in proximity to one another and would be constantly exposed to each other’s smells and sounds. This situation would have impinged upon each bear’s ability to transition to independence. So we waited for a better option.
Recently, we have determined that Palu will be moving to another zoo. We are excited for him, as he will ultimately have the opportunity to be paired with a female sun bear for potential mating opportunities once he matures. This impending transition also allowed us to move Palu away from his mother into a behind-the-scenes holding area as he prepares for his journey.
Staff had seen signs that weaning was occurring naturally for these animals. The two kept away from each other when on exhibit, interacting very rarely. Nursing had not been seen in some time. Keepers had noticed indications that the two were actually scuffling from time to time. And finally, Marcella appears to have resumed her cycling, and for the sake of genetics we needed to move Palu to his own space.
Palu’s regular keeper, Crystal, had been training him to prepare Palu for his trip to the holding area. She described his attitude during training as “very focused.” This really paid off, because during the move he was very calm, never vocalized, and immediately took to exploring his new surroundings. Clearly he was well prepared for the short trip in the crate!
In the time since, Palu has become a big hit with the staff who work near his new off-exhibit home. When he isn’t digging holes big enough to get his whole body into, he is entertaining us with his goofy antics. Like a sub-adult panda, Palu is at a social stage and appears to relish the opportunity to ham it up for staff. We will certainly miss him when he leaves.
We expect to say goodbye to Palu in about a month’s time. He will make the trip to his new home with a few trusted staff members at his side. They will help him settle in. And for the time being, Marcella will be the only sun bear on exhibit at the San Diego Zoo. That will be a short-lived prospect, however. When our staff returns, they will be bringing with them a souvenir: an adult male. We hope he’ll be a new addition to the breeding success we have had! This is incredibly important for the species, as sun bears are one of the rarest bears on the planet. Unfortunately, breeding efforts for the Bornean subspecies thus far have not been what is needed to sustain the subspecies in North American zoos.
In the end, the silver lining of Palu’s departure is that this move opens the door for fresh breeding opportunities at two zoos. We wish him the best!
Suzanne Hall is a senior research technician for the San Diego Zoo Institute for Conservation Research.


Thanks for the update Suzanne. Just love the way you said the staff will be bringing home a souviner. Now the question will be, will Marcella like and accept the new guy. Only time will tell!
Perhaps Gao Gao will be able to give the new guy some tips?
That is very exciting. I remember seeing them when I visited in September 2010, they are very beautiful animals.
I’m glad everything worked out for the best and happy that SDZ gets to work on helping another species to survive.
May the Bear Gods be with you on your new journey, little Palu.
It’s always sad, sad, sad to separate from a beloved animal, but knowing that Palu goes to meet his genetic destiny and help his species survive is comforting. Thank you all for the work you do to help save the wonderful creatures of our world.
Bear ears question: can the Panda Keepers tell what it means when their ears are straight back as opposed to full Mickey Mouse position? Studies on cats and dogs show what their tails mean at different positions. Little Cloud has his ears back a lot it seems whereas Momma Bai and Sir Gao usually have theirs MM style.
Thanks for any info on this!
me too! Do we have any data at all on positioning of body, or ears etc.? Do Pandas have any warning postures? They are all so sweet! How do we know when they are angry except when they give a warning bark-see Sun Lyn to her sister-. or make some sound we dont normally hear-babies at exams make noises-
Generally, these facial changes are most important to highly social species, like canids. That said, a “play face” has been described for some bear species. In the panda, however, its pretty subtle when compared to other carnivores.
Thanks, Suzanne, for the very informative update. Can you tell us what zoo Palu will be going to, and tell us a little bit more about Marcella’s new mate? What’s his name? Age? Previous mating experience? Was he wild born or captive born? I’d also love a review on Marcella…her age…previous cubs…wild or captive born…what behaviors she has been trained for to help in her care. Does she do blood draws, urine samples, vaginal swabs, and ultrasounds like Bai Yun?
I am sure that Palu’s care takers will miss him very much. Which zoo is he moving to? Please give us an update.
Thank you.
You don’t say what zoo Palu is moving to. Would like to be able to keep up with how he is doing after he moves.
Thank you Suzanne for the Sun Bear update. Enjoyed visiting them last year.
Moderator: What zoo will our Sun Bear being moving to?
I, too, am interested in knowing which zoo Palu will be going to. I live in St. Louis and we have sun bears here — could that be a possibility? I love the sun bears and could spend hours watching them. It’s great that SDZ is part of keeping them from becoming extinct.
Wow! Two weanings at once! I hope the Sun Bear enjoys his new environment.
While we do know what zoo Palu will travel to, it is our policy not to publicize that detail until he has safely made the trip there. Once his travel is completed we will share this information.
Thank you, Suzanne, for the latest information on our Sun Bears. Now it’s time for Palu to leave his very tolerant mom. She sure is patient with him.
We always enjoyed watching Palu and his sister Pagi playing and running around their expanded exhibit. They were a lot of fun especially when enrichment toys were available.
On our last visit, we noticed Palu on the same log where Marcella was enjoying some quiet time. I couldn’t believe how much Palu had grown. He is now much larger than his mom.
I wish Palu good luck in his new environs and also, I am looking forward to meeting Marcella’s new companion. Thank you and all the keepers for doing such a great job with these beautiful bears.
How is Pagi doing? I understand you cannot share any information at this time about the zoo Palu is traveling to, but can you share some information on Marcella’s new mate?
Thank you Suzanne for this interesting update on Marcella and Palu. We will look forward to seeing Marcella’s new mate! And learn of Palu’s new home. A few of us pandafans traveled to Oakland last fall and visited Pagi at her new home there. And of course, we saw her big sister Bulan as well. And Ting Ting.
Can you tell us where Dibu is now? Many years ago I thought he had gone to the Columbus Zoo in Ohio, but they don’t have any record of him. And Danum ~ still in Brownsville, TX? I wonder if he has fathered any new cubbies.
Marcella’s new mate is, like her, a confiscated former pet-trade animal captured at a young age in the wild. All of the Bornean adults in the U.S. are the same. The only offspring born to these founders are the four cubs produced by Marcella and Dibu.
Dibu is at the Columbus Zoo now, and Danum is still in Texas.
Could the Columbus Zoo have renamed him Ralph?
Hello, Susanne, what is a pet-trade animal? This sounds scary.
Thank you.
This is scary. A pet-trade animal is an animal stripped from its mother at a young age (usually resulting in the death of its mother) in order to be brought in from the wild to become a family pet. For bears, this is devastating for many reasons, including the fact that the cute bear cub grows to become a large, dangerous animal that winds up being held outside the family home in a tiny cage. It’s very, very sad.
Most of the founder Bornean animals in the U.S. were confiscated by the government of Borneo when they were found residing in private homes. Marcella and Dibu are presumed to have been former pets.
Yes, Dibu also goes by the name Ralph.
Aren’t most US states making it illegal to own an exotic animal?
I’ll be sure to visit Dibu aka Ralph next time I’m at the zoo!
Thank you Suzanne for clearing up the Dibu AKA Ralph issue. Good to know he’s there and Dianna from OH can check up on him now!
I only hope that any other pet-trade animals receive the same care as Marcella, Dibu, and now her mate have found in our US zoos. Marcella and Dibu must’ve been very comfortable in their new home in San Diego to have produced 4 offspring.
How sad to think of all the cubbies out there in the pet-trade….It is frightening to understand that these animals are still being treated in such a manner in our modern age. Thank you though for enlightening us. The more we learn, the more we understand, the more we love, the more we will conserve…..to change what Baba Dioum said only slightly
Don’t miss this video of pandas in the wild and about their habitat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-deAwTNxIE
Thank you so much, Danielle, for this amazing video of the necessity to help the survival of our pandas. I contribute to their cause, everyone should, even it it’s $10 towards this cause. We all have to be a part of keeping them alive and safe and happy. They bring us so much joy and they so deserve to keep thriving.
Merci!
Danielle, thank you so much for sharing this link. It’s very well done. I agree with Kat Wilson – every bit that we can contribute does some good.
Thank you Danielle.
kat, I agree we all need to continue to do our part; no matter how small. It all adds up.
Here is the link to a new video of Fu Hu and his mother Yang Yang from the Zoo in Vienna, Austria:
Yang Yang nursing Baby Fu Hu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9t2-ezN-7s
He did a reverse somersault! He’s really cute. Love the “charlie brown” edging on his back.
Both boys have shown the panda community their unique fashion statements. Will it get them more girls? Only time will tell.
That and their winning pandanalities.
Panda fans, go to Pandas Live On – Lots of new photos of our favourite bears in China.
Wow, the picture of Hua Mei kinda disturbed me.
Also on Pandas Live On website is a story about the Smithsonian capturing photos of animals doing what animals do by using motion activated cameras.
Some 201,000 !! photos were taken and organized by animal type; the giant panda is well represented with 175 photos.
Also noted in the story by Jeffrey Wolf “One panda found the camera so irresistible, it tried to taste it. That gave researchers a glimpse inside the animal’s mouth”.
go to si dot wild dot edu / index dot cfm
Thanks very much for the link, those pictures are quite exceptional!!
Who is the little one on cam 30….?
(Number not registered on who is who.) I think their eating styles give them away? Gao is definitely a lefty. How is Mr. Independence doing? Lately, I am catching only glimpses. I did see an upside down sleeping basket in Yunnie’s apartment a couple days ago. His version of a “sleepover”?
Moderator’s note: Cam 30 now shows Yun Zi.
Okaaay
There are the most fun videos on You Tube featuring the little 3 month old Polar Bear at the Aalborg Zoo in Denmark! I highly suggest you all subscribe to the channel because
this little bear is a smile and giggle maker!!
Here’s one link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxVEpKYiou0&feature=feedu
And! Do not miss the first day in the snow
He’s having a great time climbing the rocks and getting really dirty in the process!
Thanks for the link, Bobbie! He is quite the cutie!
Don’t miss the new pictures and videos of Lun Lun and her little Wee Lan http://www.flickr.com/photos/47022012@N05/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pP-Ex8wKYo
Also pictures and videos of Fu Hu and mom Yang Yang from the Zoo in Vienna, Austria http://www.flickr.com/photos/vera_le_bail/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeQtkML27O0
Well, it seems as if Lun Lun wants to keep up her reputation…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pandalover19/
Ouch- and more ouch. I didn’t know the reputation….
Lun Lun is a loving Mommie but she has her unique way of handling her cubbies. She is rough and drags them all over. She does rough-house them and there have been little accidents. Lately she has dropped Po. I think she is testing to see if he bounces.
She is nicknamed Mommie Monster.
As I write this, YZ is enjoying a bit of a feast in his bedroom. All his toys are nicely stacked on the platform. He looks so good.
Awwww…. I just tuned in around 3:15, and there’s our little guy lounging atop the raised structure in his bedroom! How fun to see him for once!!! I really miss him.
By the way, is he getting a little rounder?
Moderator’s note: Keepers report he is now about 105 pounds!
I was thinking he had really grown!
Hmmmm… I’m not surprised to hear that he’s grown so much — he looks as if the keepers are taking VERY good care of him…
I know you all must be terribly busy but I can’t tell you how nice it would be to see a close up of Gao Gao’s face. or point me to where I’d see a great clear pic of him close up
Liz P–here is a link to one of Rita Petita’s latest pictures of Mr. Gao Gao:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ritapetita/5488063342/
Look through her site–she has gorgeous pix of all the pandas.
Liz P — on the Panda Cam page, at the top, click on “Photo Gallery.” When you get this page, just under the box, click on “Open Gallery.” There you can choose a set of pictures of each panda to view. There are some great pictures of Gao Gao. He has such a sweet face, and you can also see his furry feet.
Moderator: How is our little Yun Zi doing alone? Is he bored without Mommy to play with?
Moderator’s note: He is doing well! His keepers make sure he has plenty of enrichment and interaction.
Thank you.. thank you.. thank you!! I see the close-up of the Big Guy. He is truely an awesome character. What I love most about Panda’s is they always look like they are just happy to be here, smiling away.