Over the next few weeks, we will be transitioning little Yun Zi and his mother to another part of the San Diego Zoo’s Giant Panda Research Station. The pair will cross through tunnels, and Yun Zi will encounter new sights and scents along the way. Some of these will be from his siblings, Su Lin and Zhen Zhen. This will all be interesting to him, and we will probably see increased olfactory activity in both mother and cub. However, encountering the scent of other bears, even relatives, wouldn’t be unusual for a panda in the wild.
In the bamboo forests of China, pandas inhabit home ranges rather than territories. A territory is typically a home space that is defended by its owner. Territorial animals, like wolves, hummingbirds, and gibbons, defend a reasonably small area in which an important resource is concentrated. Food, mates, and nesting sites are typical resources that may promote territoriality, depending on their availability. Being territorial is energetically expensive, as defense of one’s territory requires vigilance, advertising of your willingness to defend your space, and sometimes injury from fighting. As a result, only a small proportion of animals are territorial.
A home range, by contrast, is an area inhabited by an animal that is not defended against conspecifics. Animals whose important resources are evenly distributed throughout its habitat often develop home ranges, and because food or nesting sites are abundant, they need not expend energy excluding others from the area. Pandas live in home ranges, and their bamboo food source is, ideally, found all around them as they traverse their terrain. The panda doesn’t expend any energy in defending its home range, which is good: bamboo doesn’t pack an energetic wallop for those who eat it.
How big is a panda home range? George Schaller studied wild pandas 30 years ago and described home ranges for females of about 4.5 square kilometers (1.7 square miles). Males’ home ranges were larger, about 6.1 square kilometers (2.3 square miles). But we’ll have to see if these numbers hold. Our recent collaborative work with colleagues in China has documented the movement of one female who traveled 50 kilometers (31 miles) during the breeding season, two years in a row. Is this an anomaly, or does this suggest something more we don’t yet know about the fluidity of panda home ranges? We’ll have to wait and see how the data comes in.
Home ranges of different individuals may overlap, as in the case of the panda. Our research has shown that, at least in some cases, female youngsters are the ones to leave their natal home range not long after weaning. So far, we haven’t seen the same movement from young males. With this dynamic, relatives across generations may wind up as neighbors over the years, and the scents they leave behind will be picked up by other bears as they make their way through their home ranges.
As Yun Zi transitions to our main viewing area, he will experience for the first time some of the other residents of our facility. Bai Yun, for her part, is very familiar with the main exhibit spaces and the scents of these other bears. It is tempting to liken their experience to that of a mother-cub pair in their wild home range, moving out of their core area and crossing over the paths of other bears who have been nearby recently. Although our pandas’ environment is not a wild one, we can be assured that what they are about to encounter is a familiar situation for their species.
Suzanne Hall is a senior research technician for the San Diego Zoo’s Institute for Conservation Research.


Thank you for the interesting information. All of you are fantastic in the amount of time you spend to provide those of us on the “outside” with updates etc.
I have a question. When will Yun Zi’s photo be on the Panada page? I know he’ll be the cutest one ever!!
Thank you again for everything y’all do!!!
Moderator’s note: Which panda page do you mean?
Oh, thank you so very much for this wonderfully informative posting Suzanne! My heart leaped with anticipation for Yuni to embrace his new surroundings!!! I just love his little nose sniffing the air, and of course Bai, raising her head to the gentle breeze! I’m so excited! And how fascinating the research of the ‘home range’ for Panda’s in the wild. I bet Yuni would be one not to leave so soon from the nest!!!
Is it correct that Momma and Yuni are moving to Su Lin’s exhibit space? Or am I mistaken? But if they are moving into a currently occupied space, where will the other Panda go?
Thank you again SDZ for always brightening my day!!!
xoxox
Moderator’s note: The Panda Team will be providing a post about the panda changes.
This will be a huge new adventure for Yun Zi. How fascinating! Momma will guide him along I am sure. His world expands some more. Will be interesting to view this and see his reaction. Thanks!
Thank you for such an informative article. I wonder why the female panda travelled so far during breeding season? Perhaps because their habitat is being fragmented and she had to go so far to find a male to breed with or could it be some inherent way of ensuring she didn’t breed with someone closely related to her? I guess only she knows for sure!
It will be exciting to see how Yun Zi responds to his new home and the scents of his sisters, looking forward to watching it on cam!
Thank you for all this information Suzanne. Will Bai Yun and Yun Zi be out in a exhibit all day now once they are moved? Yun Zi is so cute and cuddley.
Great post, Suzanne. I love getting all the information you and your colleagues share with us. We are certainly far better educated about pandas than we were even several years ago. Not only do we have the pleasure of watching our cubs grow up, but we also get to learn about how they live, mate, and take care of their young. Thank you! And great pic!
that’s sooo cool!!
is there a cam, where you are transitioning little Yun Zi and his mother, to?
how long is a pandas life span?
when did people first fine out about the panda species??
Moderator’s note: Yes, there is a Cam in place at Yun Zi’s new digs. And you can find answers to your other questions on our Panda Animal Byte fact sheet.
Thank you for the education on Pandas….very interesting.
I stumbled across these photos on flickr, probably someone else has already mentioned them here in which case, sorry of the repitition But I couldn’t help noting them. The photos are wonderful. Some really gorgeous shots of Su Lin.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kjdrill/sets/72157623269835864/
As always, wonderful information about our fascinating pandas. I learn more every time you post a new blog.
I happened to catch some of the live CNN coverage on the day that Tai Shan and Mei Lan traveled to China. The coverage was of transporting Tai from the hanger to the airplane at Dulles. As an indicator of how well he was handling everything, I noticed that, while he was walking around in his cage when it was moving, as soon as it stopped, he sat down and ate some of his boo. Just another day of travelling – “as long as I have my boo and favorite treats, I’m just fine.” It’s unfortunate that his ease in travel resulted in his US keeper losing access to him so quickly. I know that had to be hard on her. And to think that he missed out on all the recent snow in DC. Once he’s out of quarantine, he’ll get lots of experience playing in snow.
About 2:45 SDT….Yun Zi is being crowded by mom on the platform……funny that he just can’t squeeze in behind her against the wall. He finally ended up on his head with legs straight up and then fell over backwards. Some day he will learn to do summersaults all on his own. That will be a lot of fun to watch.
Very informative and interesting! Thanks. Have twins been tracked or studied? I’m curious how far they separate from each other after weaning.
Moderator’s note: According to a previous post written by Suzanne (To Twin or not To Twin) there are very few accounts of pandas rearing twins in the wild. A limited number of anecdotes of wild panda twins do exist, but in most cases they have not been verified.
Great blog as usual. It was nice to see Kathy Hawk with Prince Fluffy-Butt. It seems strange but I see him in 3 sizes. Alone he seems quite tiny. With Queen Bai he is a bit bigger, but put him with one of his pretty keepers and he looks gigantic. Today he was late for his nap so he had to wait for mommy to fall asleep to get a foothold on the shelf. Finally mom got up and left…but not before he climbed on top of her-declared they were playing “King of the Hill” and he won. I can hardly wait to see what he does to a new enclosure…….Love Grammmie
Wow!! What an informative blog. I never knew about territories and home ranges and the difference. It would be interesting to see Yun Zi encounter the different smells and his reactions. Does Bai react differently to the “familiar smells” with a cub versus without? Thank you so much. What a great job you have. Thank You!
Suzanne – fascinating blog
What is the least crowded day of the week to visit Yun Zi?
Moderator’s note: A rainy weekday in winter
Awww…isn’t the transition kind of double ended? Sad to see baby leave mama but happy that they are learning to be on their own exploring new things? How exciting is it to be a part of that?
Moderator’s note: Yun Zi won’t be leaving his mother; together they will be given access to one of the main viewing enclosures.
When they move yunior, will we still get daily cams of him and his “family?”
Moderator’s note: You’ll still get views of Yun and his mother.
That is so interesting. I hope one day the panda population of the world will flourish and I’d like to think the SD Zoo might have a big hand in making that happen. Thanks for the latest lesson in Panda environments.
thanks, suzanne! that was REALLY interesting!
Suzanne, thank you so much for all the learning you have passed on via this latest post. I can almost picture the bears wandering through their home ranges, stopping here and there to have a drink, eating their bamboo, sniffing the scents left behind by others. Perhaps, occasionally running into another bear, discovering an appropriate denning spot, or even having fun splashing in the waters of a cool stream. Such a peaceful and calm image, it seems. My question is, as far as recent research shows, what is the current state of available and sustainable home ranges for the giant pandas in the wild?
I was much encouraged to hear recently about the wild panda that was trapped on a hillside and subsequently set free. It was great to see that bear break into a run through his familiar surroundings, looking like he knew exactly where to go. It’s likely the closest many of us, panda lovers, will come to witnessing a giant panda “in the wild.” So, I wonder how far can he or she go? How much “home range” is there?
Thanks for your clear and fascinating heads-up on the coming move. Obviously we drink up all the education you offer about these big critters, along with just loving them. And obviously you-all are as good at “care-taking” your web viewers as you are with your panda charges, informing us, preparing us, teaching us what matters in loving these beautiful bears. Thanks so much.
Very interesting post! This is related to something I have been wondering…do pandas “recognize” their genetic relatedness through scents? In previous posts and those from the National Zoo, you have said that post-weaning, mothers would not recognize their cubs should they be reintroduced. If brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, etc. have adjacent or overlapping home ranges, wouldn’t inbreeding be a real possibility unless there was some olfactory signal to avoid genetically related pandas when females cycle into estrus? It seems that in the captive panda population, genetic diversity is paramount when it comes to choosing mating pairs, and I wonder how it works in the wild.
Thanks!
Thank you Suzanne for your very informative blog! I just love learning new things about these adorable bears! And many thanks to you and the entire SDZ staff for taking such good care of all of your animals.
Thank you Suzanne for the write up on such an interesting topic. I never knew the difference between a home range and a territory. With Bai Yun and Yun Zi transitioning to the main viewing area, does this mean they will continue to use the same indoor spaces that they are currently using? I can just imagine them moving through the corridors, and little Yun Zi stopping to smell the smells of his sibs. The way you described it, it seems as though there are these little tunnels in the catacombs through which they are herded. And what a great picture of Kathy and Yun Zi. I can see he has grown! As always, thank you for all you share with us.
Bobbie Wood – I enjoyed your video. I like the music you selected and your sense of humor. I got it about the green grass.
P Wong – Thank you for bringing us smiles. It always works. I’m still grateful to you for having translated Gao Gao’s true story.
sue Martz- The little guy will always be Yunzie to me.
Happy Valentine’s Day and Chinesse New Year to all!
What an exciting time for our little boy!!! I cannot wait to see his reactions. Mom is an old pro at all this, but Yun Zi is in for quite a treat.
Suzanne,
Your impressive presentation was most informative about Panda environs.
I enjoyed it immensely, while learning a lot about the Panda !
It will be interesting to see how Yun Zi and Bai Yun react in their new home
I hope the sawdust box is included in the move..
The Pandas would have had a grand time today in our monumental blizzard.
I can see Yun Zi now, making “Snow Angels”.
It was very deep, he would have been buried in all the fluffy snow. Oh no !!!
Great post, oh my gosh Yun zi is huge!!! I love the picture!
I was wondering how big the pandas space is at the SDZ? The pandas territory in the wild is pretty big, that would be fun to study pandas as a job!
I am soo excited for Yun Zi to go through the tunnel and smell different things! I think he might learn a little bit and Bai Yun will smell her little girls and husband, (Gao
Gao) haha.
I was also wondering how old is Bai Yun? How old is Su Lin, Zhen Zhen and Gao
Gao? Please answer!!!
Moderator’s note: You can find each panda’s age on our Meet the Pandas page.
This is so interesting. Thanks, Suzanne. The more I learn about pandas the more I love them.
Post a video of Yun Zi and Bai going through the tunnel!! I wanna see it
Also, i was wondering- why is Yun Zi and Bai Yun moving to a different area?
I think you should make more blogs about Zhen Zhen, Su lin and Gao Gao. I have a question- what are Zhen Zhens, Su Lins and Gao Gaos nick-names? Like Bai Yun is Bai and Yun zi is Yunior. Just wondering…
Oh, to be in San Diego! Pandas! And, ahem, no shovelling snow from the driveway.
Another wonderful blog, thank you, and thanks to p wong. Brain food and smile food. And pandas!
Hello Suzanne, thanks. Now I have a question. When a female bear protects her den, does that constitute territoriality?
Conversation with Gao Gao #71
Gao Gao: Hee hee hee hee!
Tourist: Hello, Gao Gao.
G: Oh, hello, Mr. Tourist.
T: What’s with all the excitement?
G: Valentines Day is coming!
T: Ah, to exercise your courtship rites, right?
G: Yup.
T: So what’s on your mind?
G: I ordered an amphibious DUKW vehicle.
T: From the catalog?
G: A recycled model.
T: Well, aren’t they all recycled from WWII anyway?
G: Yeah, but this one’s got spare parts made of bananas.
T: You mean you’re getting a banana boat?
G: Well, more like a banana float.
T: WHAT!
G: I’ve invited all my lady friends…
T: They’re enticed with bananas?
G: No, actually ultrasound gel.
T: What?
G: And they’ll have nice peach jam baths, too.
T: What’s all the fuss?
G: Oh, they want to join the Miss Panda 2010 beauty contest.
T: Oh, I get it…
G: They’ll be judged by poise, smarts…
T: Will there be talent competitions?
G: There will be self-anointing contests…
T: Self-anointing contests?
G: For speed and best smelly concoctions…
T: Eew.
G: Then they’ll mount the DUKW vehicle.
T: Ah, yes. The Chinese New Years Parade!
G: They’ll tour San Diego, take a splash in the ocean and come back for the crowning ceremony.
I enjoy seeing pictures of the keepers and Yun Zi. It is neat to see the relationship and bond the keepers have with Yun Zi. They seem so much like second moms to Yun Zi.
Suzanne, thank you for this very interesting and informative blog! I appreciate the time that you and the rest of the SDZ staff takes to share this sort of information with us.
I look forward to Yunior and Mama Bai’s move to the big yard!
Maureen #27 (Previous blog) & Cat #10 – I am curious as to where you got the idea that Tai’s keeper was told she was no longer needed or that she lost her access to him quickly because of his ease in travel. I have read many articles on Tai’s departure, and it was my understanding that Tai’s NZ keeper would turn over responsibility for Tai to his Chinese keeper upon arrival in China, and that her departure date was scheduled before they left DC.
wow! for some reason i would think that the panda’s home range would be much much larger. i think it is because i liken them to the brown and black bears we have here in our foothills. then i read further into the article and i realized that the brown and black bears need to roam further for their food source. it’s not so contained as is the case for the panda. i just love learning all these fun interesting facts! thanks again panda peoples!! ( :
Panda Annie #31–some of Zhen Zhen’s nicknames are: ZZ, Miss ZZ, Little Miss Fluffy Butt, and Zoom Zoom or Zoomie.
In response to your question as to which Panda page I was referring to (see #1 response on this blog) it’s the intro page for the Panda Cam Site, where you click to go to the cam page. At the top it says Giant Panda Reserach Station, and on the right-hand side it ways Meet the Pandas with their pictures and names shown.
Thanks,
Moderator’s note: That’s an old page we no longer maintain. I’ve removed it from the server. Thank you.
# 4 Kathy Just yesterday I was “grazing” around from one link to another, to another…etc. so I am not sure where I was when I saw it but I saw a map that showed the Prehistoric range for Pandas, the Historic range and then the Current. Not a lot to be said about Prehisoric and the Historic—nobody really understood extinction…but the difference between Historic ranges until now might make you cry. I am not trying to say that Pandas are better animals than any other in the world, but we are human animals and can understand balance. I bet all groups of modern, historic men and women have in their own way contributed to the extinction of other animals we share this earth with. I bet somebody out there with a much better memory than me could tell you where to look for the map I saw. Of course, it was on a site devoted to China, and/or Pandas….Love Grammmie
Thank you for the article. I can just see little Yunzi stopping to sniff and analyze everything. Gonna be fun to watch
Hehehehe… Keeper Kathy looks like a proud Momma in that pic!
#31 Panda Annie – Nicknames: Zhen Zhen – Zhennie, ZZ, Zoomer; Su Lin – Su; Gao Gao – Gao. Other bloggers may be able to come up with more nicknames.
# 9 DEE So nice of somebody to pass that link on to you, and you to us. It is great when they put captions since we don’t know who and what they saw when they snapped…however the top row all the way on the right is incorret I believe. It says “Yun Zi is giving Mommy a backrub” when clearly Bai is in the lead of a short conga line–he dosen’t know how to backrub yet–they are dancing……Love Grammmie
The Adelaide Zoo has a great video showing Funi having a rambunctious training session with her keeper – complete with her getting a bath from the garden hose – she (Funi) has a blast!! She is so playful – she will be a great one to watch. Her keeper has to be the envy of everyone in the zoo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzP-IDFGFsw&feature=sub
# 16 Karen you will find that true of a great many animals at the SDZ. When the kids got to be young teens my husband and I used to take them on Christmas and Thanksdiving days–if there was just enough drizzle to get you barely damp and the weather cool (unless the particular animals were from very hot climates), the action was great. The animals were so glad to see so many visitors that they gave a really good show. Now that was 30 years ago…and it has been at least 12 years since I went to the zoo—-so be guided by more recent visitors.
Thanks for the update and education, Suzanne.
What a thrill this will be for everyone as the enrichment value of moving Pandas around the exhibits in fun and interesting for all of them. The sisters will encounter their brother’s scent for the first time as well. It is always exciting to see the pandas reactions the first few days they are out in a new exhibit. The explore everything, especially when they are a youngster like Yun Zi. Stand tuned new panda lovers you are in for a great adventure into panda lives.
Thanks you, Suzanne, for your time and sharing of knowledge. You are making more of the world pandaholics….not just because of their cuteness…but because of their interesting life cycles.
Thanks, so much, Suzanne, it is so interesting to learn all about our Panda’s and their habitat.
And please thank everyone for all they do at the Zoo.
I’ve been following all your updates & watching His Cutieness since birth (as well as years with all your other black & whites). In the wild, when panda relatives come across one another’s scent, do you think it possible that some might mate? I’m sure it must happen (i.e., incest) as how would they really know that they’re related? Has this been investigated/proven at all? Keep up the good work & eventually I hope to visit you again with my husband. Thank you for all your marvelously informative updates.
Dear Friends,
To those who asked, Ling Pin is the daughter of Ling Hui and Chuang Chuang. They are panda bears currently residing in the hill resort of Chiangmai, Thailand. Ling Pin was born in May 2009 and is therefore about 4 months older than Yun Zi. She is a Princess and is a pop star in Thailand. She even had her own ‘live’ tv channel and a book written about her.
And she is very feisty and spunky. Her Mommie seems to have some connection with Lun Lun and does playfight and rough house with LP. However there is a 12-16 hour difference between USA and Thailand so when you see her and Momma in their den, it is probably because they are resting late at night. Because when it is morning in Singapore (we’re half an hour ahead of Chiang Mai), Yun Zi and Bai Yun are almost always sleeping or the cam is black as it is late at night. LP gets loads of toys as enrichment and in some ways she is treated as a human baby and she gets regular baths and wipe downs,
Recently she fell from the top of a tree (looked like 2-3 metres) and she was rushed to have X rays. All on You Tube. She returned to her regular routine seeming none the worse for wear. I think fluffy butts do help to cushion things.
Have a blessed and Happy Chinese New Year!
Peace,
Lucilla
Very interesting Chinese news’ videos posted by poyee_lam0321′s photostream at Flickr.com.
You can see Mei lan and Tai Shan is doing well in China.
Dee (comment #9), you took some AWESOME photos! Way to go!!! Thank you so much for sharing! You know, I can’t help but notice what beautiful cubs Gao Gao and Bai Yun produce!!! Bai Yun is an exceptionally beautiful panda and her babies have the most expressive eyes and faces I have ever seen! I’m so mesmerized when looking at close ups of them. I bet I could sit at SDZ and watch them for days and days and never get tired of looking at them… Oh, I’m so totally in LOVE with these sweet, sweet bears!!
This is off the current topic but could someone workup an article on the panda’s “thumb”, which, if I understand correctly is acutually a bone in their wrist. When do they start using it? Does Yun Zi use his yet?
Moderator’s note: See post Acrobatic Moves, Sisterly Habits.
I call Zhen Zhen “Zhennie.”
#35 Lil
Take a look at the post on the Pandas Live ON site and you will see info on Tai’s keeper turning over his care to his new keeper. It is dated 2/7/10 and is near the bottom of the post entitled “Updates on how Tai Shan and Mei Lan are doing since arriving in China”. It is right next to the first picture of the keeper with Tai. The first 2 pictures are of Mei Lan by herself.
http://www.pandasliveon.com/
Thanks Suzanne, more wonderful information and new questions to absorb.
#33 P Wong – I love your latest conversation with Gao Gao. You have a warped sense of humous just like me. Keep them coming. I also have a vivid imagination!
Thank you Pandafan-north #43. The Funi video is fantastic. Did you see the colour of the drinking fountain after her bath? The staff sure get a good workout with her.
Love the information about our pandas. It helps keep us from humanizing them too much.
BTW – thanks P Wong for the latest update on Gao Gao. Very silly! The sillier the better. I could just picture the lady pandas in the parade and leaping around in the surf!
I am coming your way this weekend. I will be the person going through the line over and over and taking a ridiculous amount of pictures. I cannot wait and I know I will get my panda fix. Thank you for the updates Panda Team.
Moderator’s note: Have fun!
SDZ got a shout out from ZA on their Panda Cub Update today! Seems they are using the plan developed at SDZ to wean Xi Lan (starting next week).
Now that the dust has settled, so to speak, from the movement of Tai Shan and Mei Lan to China, there is something that we should realize, and be proud of! In the past, the most US born pandas that we have returned to China were two, both born at the SDZ. These pandas were Hua Mei and Mei Sheng.
So much as been learned about panda breeding and animal husbandry best practices since Hua Mei was born that this year we are retuning not one, but three pandas! To my knowledge there have never been two pandas at once returned to China from two different zoos.
As sad as it was to watch that FedEx 777 take off from Dulles, we should be proud of what the US zoos with giant pandas have accomplished, and know that with every successful birth we are getting ever closer to population sustainability, and that is a GREAT thing!
Suzzane great informative post as usual…Kathy is Yunior starting to cooperate a little more as you move him around?….# 31 & # 41 Don’t forget Lin Lin as another term of endearment we heard the keepers call Su Lin as she started to come down from her tree frog stage….Also Zhen Zhen nicknamed ZZ Top for her humming a tune to her keepers….LOL….
I wish I was in San Diego after spending an hour to clean off and dig out of the 3 foot snow drifts this morning in NW,New Jersey as this would be a perfect snow enrichment day for the Pandas…..Any idea when the next SDZ Snow Enrichment day is planned as we would love to see Yuniors reaction to it in person if Lynn gets out of the Hospital hopefully in the next 3 weeks after 14 months in a Hospital bed…..
“Panda Peace on Earth , Goodwill to All Living Things…..”
Moderator’s note: No snow day scheduled. It sure would be nice to use some of our readers’ snow
As you already know our little Xman will be leaving his mom before long
. It was fun this morning to watch the Xman and mommy monster having a wonderful play time together I hope they enjoy a lot of them in the next couple weeks.
I am guessing that Mary means the “Meet the Pandas” photo. I was wondering too when Yunior would get his photo included.
Great post. As far as we know pandas don’t recognize these scents right. I mean these are Bai’s children and mate but does she recognize them as her cubs? I would guess she certainly knows Gao Gao’s scent but Yunior would just think they’re other creatures out there he has never seen. All the new smells would be fascinating to the little one I’m sure. For mom it is just part of checking out her home base and seeing what is new.
As you note pandas aren’t fighters really but they will fight each other if necessary in the wild won’t they? They have all the gear for it just as any bear but they do seem to be much more laid back. The only creatures who are going to take the bamboo out there are other pandas and humans.
Moderator’s note: Yun Zi and his photo and bio are already part of the Meet the Pandas page.
Will this switch to the main viewing area mean that Bai & Yunior will be on exhibit longer hours?
Moderator’s note: They will be working up to that.
Camera 5 has a fantastic close up of Zhennie right now. It’s the first time I catch a close up of her. She’s so beautiful!
Thanks camera person!
#65 Marie, I was just looking and saw the same great closeups and came to write a comment to THANK whoever is manning the camera right now.. Amazing shots…..
I agree with Marie #65!
ZA’s website (see Farewell Mei Lan) says they are extending their keeper’s stay in Chengdu for a while longer to help Mei Lan adjust to her new home.
I witnessed a great play session between XMan and Mommie Monster about 15 minutes ago. I’m sure gonna miss those rumbles!
And paging DoxieMom–great play session this afternoon on Cam 17 with occasional amazing Cam 11 closeups…
What a marvelously informative article, but then you always give us such wonderful information! Thanks Suzanne.
I just watched Yunior climbing all over mom, having a ball just playing, playing, playing. he is such a delight to watch! I can’t wait to see what the new digs will be like, and how he embraces yet another adventure. He is such a happy-go-lucky little boy that this will just be one more fabulous thing to explore!
Thanks, and can’t wait to see him and Bai out on full-time exhibit!
Bai Yun is a very patient mom with the little one climbing all over her.
Great mother!
Shirley
February 11 Update on Mei Lan: Her keeper’s stay is being extended a few days to give Mei Lan more time to adjust. She is starting to eat bamboo, but has yet to find a favorite. Zoo Atlanta stated that it took Yang Yang and Lun Lun a month to eat enough bamboo when they came here. Mei Lan’s going to be okay.
I was just watched Yunior sweeting up momma watering bowel. He fits on it nicely waht a little darling.
#54 Laurie – Thank you for your response. On another board, there was discussion about that particular blog, and it was noted that what was written about Tai’s keeper was inaccurate, based on articles in the Washington Post and what members had heard at the zoo before Tai departed for China. It is rather unfortunate that readers of the blog have repeated the information, as if it were true.
#60 Bruce – I agree with you wholeheartedly! Kudos to the San Diego Zoo, National Zoo, Zoo Atlanta, and Memphis Zoo panda teams! And thank you for all that you have done on behalf of the pandas!
Thank you, Suzanne, for your interesting article. It was so cute to watch Yun Zi climbing all over Bai Yun this afternoon. She is such a patient and loving mother! As always, hugs and kisses to mom and baby.
#35 – Lil – According to everything I read the NZ keeper was prepared to spend up to a week to help Tai get settled in his new home – little did any of us expect him to get settled to quickly so that China decided it was best to turn ALL his care over to his new keeper.
Now ZA reports that they have extended their keeper’s stay a few more days to help Lani adjust.
#43 -panda fan – thanks for the link to Adelaide – Nice to see Fun has her keeper trained also
According to an article I read on the WWF site Mei Lan has been selected to be an Earth Hour Global Ambassador in March. I do hope that this honor won’t place any additional demands on her. It’s hard to tell from the article if it will be a case of just using images of her or if she will somehow participate in a public ceremony. Here’s hoping that it won’t entail her having to leave her next exhibit. Earth Hour will be on March 27th. By then she should just be feeling secure in her new abode.
#70 Liana – it looks like Bai and YZ will be out in the main exhibit area when we are there for the panda fan convention! WoooooHoooooo!!!
#76 Maureen – Perhaps the other reporters had their information confused… The Washington Post 1/29 article reported that the NZ team was only staying in China until 2/8. The 1/30 article contained a direct quote from Tai’s keeper stating that she would no longer be responsible for his care upon arrival in China. This is consistent with what zoo visitors were told, so I don’t know where that other version of the story came from.
#78 pandafan-north – Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Yunior is out in the main exhibit area in time for the Panda Fan Convention! Those lucky people! It would be awesome if they are able to enjoy his company for their entire day at the zoo!
#43……had to laugh and so enjoyed the Funi video. I never knew a panda could run so fast! Looks like a play mate is needed…….or she wants to roll around on the floor with her keeper…….so darn cute.
Where has DoxieMom been lately? No videos posted in a few days…..
Coooooooool. It looks like when we are in San Diego that both Mama and little man will be out for all to see. I plan on taking tons of pics and keep getting in line over and over and over again to see them all. Sooooo excited!!!
So glad we have all the other pandas to keep smiles on our faces. As I came to this blog Bai and Yunior were on their platform asleep together. I was watching the webcam from the Thailand Zoo Lin Ping and her mother were having a great time tonight. While in their inside enclosure they were curled up together sleeping and then when they went outside Lin and mom had a great time playing together. I just love all those black and white beautiful creatures.
… just a thought – while the pandas are moving from one space to another, does Bai Yun recognize the scents of her daughters?, and do the girls Su Lin and Zhen Zhen recognize their mother’s scent? – or is it through time, they forget who is who and everyone is just a ‘bear’ ?
Elisa in Brazil #50 – Thank you for sharing the photos posted by Poyee. It was so wonderful to see the current pictures of Mei Lan and Tai Shan. I was happy to see Mei Lan looking so much better. The photo of the wild panda enjoying a meal with the peasant family was delightful.
I’m sure Yun Zi will have fun going through the zoo and seeing differnet things!! =)
I read that pandas are often enticed to be interested in eachother. I think one of the most endearing qualities of Bai Yun and Gao Gao is that they are still way into eachother after all these years and four cubs. I say congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Gao. I think that is totally cool. I wish everyone (the pandas included) a happy Valentines Day. Hugs and kisses for Yun Zi.
cool now maybe we can see them better without tree stumps in the way
how is he gonna know if its another bear, if you dont let them see each other? Maybe he thinks there are ONLY TWO BEARS LIKE HIM and mommy in the world? my cat thinks i am a cat,,,,know what I mean? he had never been around another cat……wierd…..i want to know more. oh i know, the howdy gate
# 43 PANDAFAN NORTH Let me get this straight—-you are claiming they PAY the keeper to come in every day—-are you sure she doesn’t pay them to have a place to play all day????????? Love Grammmie
Thanks for the updates. I am so in love with this little guy. The progress he has made is phenomenal. Bai Yun is such a terrific Mom & you all at the SDZ are wonderful are teaching these these bears too. Also you teach us about them.
I would love to see them all one day but for now I am happy with the panda cam & webpage.
Happy New Year!
Blessings!
# 57 KATE NOW PICTURE GOA GOA reclining on a colorful silk covered couch–Big smile on his face, waving and winking at the beauties–and Queen Bai tapping her right foot, and testing the clubbing quality of her Royal Scepter on her opposite paw, a crown on her head, and about to CROWN The Prince Royal Consort-right between the ears. She has just been annointed in her Royal Floral Gardens and is ready for her sping date. (pandas keep a 2 year calender)
We need a Cartoonist on staff, or somebody with great imagination, lots of Panda dolls with clothing or sewing ability…how about if we write them up to go to all the ZOO BLOGS (just to start) with every cent ever earned going to Panda/endangered species/etc. funds ….Love Grammmie———I WISH you could see inside my mind.
Here is a good thought wherever you are at 2:30 a. m. (pac. time). Since that photo is several months old we need a newer one-that is a given. Hands up everybody who wants the sawdust photo-keep them up while the moderator counts…just a few more min–Hours–I mean days, each and every one of you. I would say another great one would be front paws holding back paws (ready for a “Foot Party”), with his happy grin on his face. If given those two choices it would be a hard choice….or we could commission a portrait of His Highness in his royal garb with his Prince’s Crown……Love Grammmie
#74 LIL–Re: #53 LAURIE——Some news anchors were discussing this last week. News came from a news source—was crosschecked, aired and then went to blogs….News now goes directly to blogs. Without the advantage of crosschecking we believe whomever or whatever seems believable. Until the average person asks….”How do you know” we don’t stand a chance of getting accurate information, no matter how well intentioned the source is, or the typist on the other end…..Love Grammmie
Wow–SDZ, you’re spoiling us, & I LOVE it! You share so much info about pandas in general, & about your pandas specifically–each time I see a new update, it’s like receiving a present. On second thought, it’s not “like” receiving a gift, it actually IS receiving a gift.
#9, Dee–I agree, KJ has many absolutely stunning photos! As an FYI, if you search Flickr for “pandas”, you will find SOOOOOO many great photos & photographers! There are lots of panda groups there, & you can find photos & video of all the US pandas, as well as those from around the world. (You’ll see, on the right side of the Flickr page ‘This photo also belongs to:’ with a list of groups below. Click on any of the group names to go to that group, & check out the photos in the group pool. ***WARNING*** you may never leave your computer! ;-D
I hope that someboy got video or picture of Prince Fluffy-But first rearing back on the log, then leaping right into the pile of bamboo. I wonder if he knew the length of the log from where it was in relationship to him….a photo of his face would be fun too, but the camera was not that close……Love Grammmie
Felicia #2,
The mother-cub pair will move to Zhen Zhen’s current space.
Diana #14,
We will be watching closely to see how Bai Yun reacts. She has the potential to be more protective and aggressive at this time because of Yun Zi.
Elizabeth #23 and Peggy #63,
I can’t speak to their ability to recognize based on genetics, but the bears have shown they are able to distinguish individuals by scent. They have a complex and important scent-messaging system, and identifying individuals plays a role in their social communication.
Annie #31,
Now that Yun Zi has made his debut and is comfortable on exhibit, we will return the facility to its normal state, in which we operate one viewing area instead of two.
Barbara #48,
Sure, that probably happens sometimes. However, wild pandas don’t live as long as their captive counterparts, and overlapping generations may not be of compatible ages for breeding, so it’s not a foregone conclusion that close relatives will mate. Genetic relatedness will not deter a panda in estrus. I have heard stories of a brother-sister pair in Mexico City that, during estrus, would fawn all over each other at their howdy gate. Staff never let them breed, but that didn’t stop the bears from being very interested in each other!
Peggy #63,
Absolutely, they will fight. Our male Shi Shi was seriously injured in such a fight. Such aggressiveness is most common during the breeding season, when males compete for the attention of a female (male-male) or when she is not interested in a particular male (female-male).
Lucy #64,
Eventually, yes… but not immediately.
To everyone concerned about turning over returned pandas’ care to the Chinese staff so quickly:
We have been through this process now twice, with Hua Mei and Mei Sheng. The moment the bears hit Chinese soil, they are turned over to the Chinese. Our U.S. staff is there as a courtesy and a comfort to the traveling bear. Don’t get me wrong; the Chinese are most gracious in wanting us to be there, and those who have traveled with our bears return with stories of how the Chinese staff really used the time of the transition to pick the brain of the U.S. staffer, learning all they could about the individual bear and their training. The bears and Chinese staff benefit from this transition, and our staffers have walked away from the experience feeling good about the level of personal interest the animal’s new caretakers have shown. But make no mistake: once the bears are on Chinese soil, the Chinese are in control. As it should be: these are their bears. Even if they are born here, we are only “borrowing” them for a time!
Really looking forward to the Panda Convention on 3/20-3/21!! Sounds like we may have more access to see Yun Yun and Bai!!!
Don’t forget–we need to have a final count of attendees by 2/15 (Monday)! If you haven’t already done so, please let us know if you will be attending one, some, or ALL of our activities. SDZ is going all out for us on the Behind the Scenes Tour and the Meet and Greet with keeper(s) and our very own Blog Moderator!!
The email address for info is pandafan320@gmail.com . HURRY–time is running out…
Looking forward to meeting all of you at the Convention!
Frances in NYC #69, I’m answering your page, lol!! And Jeslyn in San Diego #81, I’ve been watching and recording, just waiting for this type of opportunity to make a video…
Yesterday, thanks to some wonderful camera closeups, Yun Zi was seen climbing all over Bai Yun and the drinker, as many of you commented on!
For those that missed the action, here’s the link for the video:
2010-02-11 Yun Zi: On Top of His World!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9mf8dilm8
Earlier in the day, again thanks to some closeup camera work, Xi Lan, the 17+ month old cub at Zoo Atlanta was seen playing with his mother Lun Lun! Is this what we can expect in a year from Yun Zi and Bai?
2010-02-11 Xi Lan: Playing with Mommie Monster!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59LNKSJDNr8
Thank you Suzanne for the informative blog and for answering all the viewers questions! Look forward to seeing little Yun Zi encounter a new environment, with new smells and places to explore!
What was Yun Zi chewing on this morning? He would not drop it and I could not make out if it was food or a toy ! Yunior is just so adorable.
Dear Moderator, can you tell us what Zhennie has been playing with this morning? It’s a small square-shaped object that she’s really enjoying a lot! I’ve never seen it before. Thanks!
Moderator’s note: It’s called a “feeder cube,” made by the same company that produces the sturdy Boomer balls many of our Zoo animals enjoy.
Watching Zhennie this morning.
She is a darling girl, very busy and amusing herself with a motivational “toy”.
Her living quarters are quite nice..I think Bai and Yun should get acclimated to this area easily.
Suzanne, thanks for explaining about the Panda’s transition to living in China.
It was somewhat encouraging hearing about the Chinese caretakers….
Who cannot love a cuddly Panda?
Panda Fans,
Hi, may we please keep the comments G- rated with our stories. Please, there are several kids on here. Thank you.
Respectfully,
Gabrielle
#83 Pam T. – Could you please tell us at what time you normally see Lin Ping and Lin Hui going outside? I am watching the pandacam from the zoo in Thailand at all sorts of times and never see them outside. Do you use the pandacam as well or do you watch the Lin Ping TV channel?
Great post… love all the info you share with us.
One thing I can not find, is what are the hours the panda cub is on display for the public to view? We are thinking of making a trip later next week and want to be prepared. Thank you.
Moderator’s note: Currently, 9 a.m. to noon (must be in the queue line by 11:30 a.m.).
Some great pandacam watching with ZZ and Su Lin this morning. Both doing lots of pacing – just going round and round their enclosures – perhaps waiting for their boo.
#99 DoxieMom – thanks for the videos, both every entertaining. Those bears are ultra-goofy!
The AZ cams are not showing bears too much this morning. At 1:39 Atlanta time, it looks like snow or lots of rain falling, but no bears to be seen. I think the x-man’s weaning has started.
It seems NZ has only one cam running today, but don’t know which bear is on it. Earlier today, whoever was on Cam 2 was doing serious licking of a honey-coated plastic crate. I love it when they put it over their heads so they can lick the insde.
#90 Grammie – Funi’s keeper is one lucky gal. I’d pay for a few minutes of “Funi play.”
Are wild pandas as sendentary as captive pandas? Do panda’s require protein in their diets? I know they have bursts of activities (which we will see on the pandacam) but they also perch in the trees and sleep alot. Does their metabolism just not require much activity?
Moderator’s note: Wild pandas have to spend more time looking for food, so they don’t have the luxury of resting as often. In the wild, their diet is 99% bamboo. The other 1% is made up of random items. For more info, read Food for Thought.
Thanks so much for all the neat things you all put up on the web for us pandaholics. I have several 4th graders at my school who love to watch Yun Zi and his antics. I can’t wait to see the lil guy in person very soon. Thanks again!!
where can I find the latest Yun Zi/Bai Yun wallpapers?
thanks!
Moderator’s note: The only wallpaper we currently offer is of Yun Zi.
Wow…Snow day for ZA as I watched Xi Lan and Lun Lun begin to explore the snow ….. I also read how they changed the mulch in their dayrooms as a precurser to Xi Lan’s weaning which will start next week… MZ still has no news on if AI worked as I e-mailed them and they stated nothing has shown up on testing as yet….NZ has been having a webcam down as well as MZ is down again as well…Lin Lin looks like she hears or sees a keeper as she keeps going to the back fence standing up on her rear legs and doing the Panda dance,perhaps ZZ Top is humming a tune and Lin Lin is dancing or could it be lunch time in Panda Valley…LOL… .
Still wish we could attend the Panda-Fandom Convention coming up as I am waiting for conference calls from Lynn’s Doctors on when she will finally be released or moved closer to home….Keep our Virtual Seats warm for us as I’ve had enough snow to last a life time this winter….LOL
” Panda Peace on Earth , Goodwill to All Living Things….”
At 2:15 PM EST, it is snowing in Atlanta and Xi Lan and Lun Lun are outside!!
Su Lin seems to be agitated about something. She has been walking around and around her space for some time now. Could the transition of Bai Yun and Yun Si be affecting her behavior?
Moderator’s note: Su Lin, now 4½ years old, is a young female approaching the estrous season.
That’s good news! Thank you for your help.
Thanks, DoxieMom #99!
Wow, Su Lin has grown to one big panda girl. She is also beautiful and graceful. Just saw her on her noon-time pace for her lunch. I am jealous of those who are at the zoo and have her walking right up to them in the viewing area. She was mostly asleep when we visited in January. I was thrilled when Tai Shan did a similar pacing up to the viewing window when we visited him at the end of December.
Has anyone read any updates about Tai Shan since the one on PandasliveOn from Feb 8? Since the NZP was closed until today, I am guessing no one was around to update their website. I noticed a keeper putting out treats and toys last Saturday, so at least one keeper was able to get to the zoo to feed the animals. I hope that others were too because just like SDZ they have a lot of dependent mouths to feed rain or shine, or blizzard conditions. Glad to know that Mei Lan is starting to adjust to her new diet. The bamboo they took with them would not be usable for her food any longer. Her Chinese keepers sounds like a very kind and caring person going around the Chengdu Panda base to cut special bamboo to help Mei Lan find one she likes.
Yes as #110 Dennis says it is snowing pretty good in Atlanta and Lun Lun and Xi Lan are enjoy it or maybe they’re just putting up with it. None of the east coast pandas have to go to China to play in the now.
One more video from today!
This one features Zhen Zhen! She went wild this morning over her enrichment as the above comments showed. It would fall out of her hands and she’d run back to get it, she rubbed it on herself, she nibbled on it, and for the grand finale? She zoom zoomed down the front of her exhibit 3 times toward it!
2010-02-12 Zhen Zhen: Enriched and Energized!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R-f5nob04I
I had to laugh Su Lin was playing in her pool or maybe taking her Saturday bath a day earlier. Now ZZ is lounging and eating her boo what a life.
Ah it was Zhen Zhen not Yunior Thanks DoxieMom.
Thanks again, DoxieMom–
That must have been some yummy fruitsicle! Wonderful to see Miss ZZ so excited and playful.
Zhen Zhen is Little miss fluffy butt? Hahaha.
But whats Su lins? Hmmm… maybe Su or Lin or SL??
QUESTIONS: What times do the pandas eat- do you put it on the panda cam ever when they eat?? You should,
but maybe they wouldn’t like it, but i dont think they can even see the camera… Soo yeah. Happy almost Valentines
day to the SDZ!
I’ve just received an e-mail from Pandas International about “Latest news on tai Shan”.
I’m so happy now because he is adjusted with his new life there.
We are getting down to the wire for reservations for the Panda Convention, March 20-21. The RSVP is due by Monday the 15th of Feb. and money to Liana Carbon by March 1st. For local folks in the San Diego area, we need you to RSVP for the “local” package” which includes the Black and White banquet and the private zoo tour and the very exclusive Meet and Greet with out own moderator and a Panda keeper. The prices on these events depend on the numbers we get. Right now the local package including ALL the above is $85.00. I know locals must be as anxious as the rest of us to get this very special dinner and tour!! If you choose to not do the banquet, then the price of the two tours would be $45.00.
Please join us!!!! The zoo is giving us VERY SPECIAL pricing on these events!! These events will happen on Saturday, March 20th. Email the following address with your RSVP, or check us out at the Facebook account.
pandafan320@gmail.com
Thanks and look forward to meeting so many other Pandaholics and of course, seeing the Pandas!
Hi everyone. Hope you are all doing great. DoxieMom Sooo sweet. P.Wong I have missed you. Gabrielle # 103. I am alittle confused about what you think would be offensive to children on these blogs? I have not seen anything here. Moderator, how are you? Now that Su Lin is going into her estrous, is there plans on breeding? Whom would it be with? Will she be allowed to stay at SDZ and have her cub? Best to all.
Moderator’s note: We don’t have a male for Su Lin to breed with.
I just read, via Pandas International that a devoted Tai Shan fan has arranged for a Web cam to follow him in China when he gets out of quarantine. Lucky Tai Shan fans!
I just got an email from Panda International about the latest on Tai Shan. So when get to go to his permanent enclosure they will have a webcam on him so we can follow him daily. This is great news but it’s to bad they won’t have one for Mei Lan so we can keep up with her. If you would like to read the news letter just on to Panda International.
Just received a very nice newsletter from Pandas International on Tai Shan. They are going to be installing a web cam for all of us to view Tai!! Thanks to one of his fans.
Thanks again DoxieMom. I only seem to check in on Yunior when he’s asleep on the platform—not that he isn’t one cute little cub to watch sleeping!
Thanks DoxieMom for the video of Zhennie.
You captured her enthusiasm for that yummy treat, that I thought was a toy.
She went after that the way I would devour a Hot Fudge Sundae!
You made my day…our local roads still icy…so we have a little cabin fever here.
DoxiMom #99 and 117: The VERY BEST EVER!!!!! Thank you for creating them all!!!


Panda-Fan North # 43: Thank you for providing the link to Funi and her trainer! Loved it
PWong #33: You truly entertain us all with the conversations!
I just received an email from Pandas International and they say that by March there will be a Tai Shan Cam for all to watch. Here is an excerpt of the article.
By March, Pandas International hopes to have arranged for the installation of a web cam, provided by the generosity of a Tai Shan fan, so everyone world-wide can see him enjoying life. We’ll have photos of the move and the celebration and you will have the ability to watch him as you did via web cam at the Smithsonian Zoo.
All I can say is WOW.
Makes me wish these pandas at the SD Zoo had more room to roam. Will that ever be the case?
Moderator’s note: Not in the near future.
Just received the latest from Pandas International — looks like we may be able to see Tai Shan in Bifengxia on a cam! Won’t that be great!!
Now we just need to be able to arrange that when Su Lin goes . . .
Speaking of Su Lin, her “bath” today was fun to watch. I wonder if she is beginning to experience estrous, since they like to be in the water at that time.
#115 Margaret – Go to PandasInternational dot com. They just posted a nice long report on Tai with photos.
Pandafans, here are some videos worth watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dcw-aZUNuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Neninq9tm70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-UCVnrdrgs
Enjoy!!
#110 PAM It sounds like I missed another good one. I fall asleep sometimes sitting straight up at the computer, or I was occupied elsewhere. It would be nice if one of our “Special Videographers” got the footage to make us a little movie….Love Grammmie
A special thank you to Pandas International for a lengthy update on Tai Shan and his importance to the panda world at Bifengxia. It turns out he has a special connection to Pandas International as well because of his mother Mei Xiang. A Tai Shan panda fan has contributed the funds required for a special panda cam to follow Tai Shan and Pandas International is arranging for it to be installed when he moves to hi permanent quarters after the big ceremony at the end of his quarantine on March 6.
Great videos. Bai didn’t mind Yunior on her back or chewing her face but leave her ears alone! I noticed that was when she always rolled him off..

Funi seems like a fun panda. What a great job to go to every morning.. !!
Xi Lan was being his typical ornery boy self…. Lun Lun is such a good mom..
Seeing alot of Zhen Zhen and Su Lin today on the cams… being a newbie, would I be correct in thinking that Su Lin looks more like Bai and Zhen Zhen is more of Gao’s looks?
#104 Danielle I watch Lin Ping on (LinPing dot truelife dot com) I was watching them outside around 11 pm EST it is hard to catch them outside most of the time they are inside in the early evening. Hope this helps and you are lucky enough to see them outside.
Just received an exciting email from Pandas International regarding Tai Shan!!!
we will be able to continue to watch him on PandaCam!! Thank you so much to the anonymous donor!!
He will be moved to his permanent quarters on March 6.
Wow you folks are as fun to read as the Pandas are to watch, well almost. Grammmie Norma you are a clever writer, and I can picture just what you say for example post #92. You are silly, I love the pandas wish I lived closer…love Claudia. Happy Valentines Day Yunie! My kitty is taking a nap so he won’t mind my saying it. I got him a new kitty toy for Sunday, should I wrap it?
Panda News just announced that Tokyo’s Ueno Zoo will be getting a replacement pair of Pandas next year to replace Ling Ling that died 3 years ago…. So hopefully we will have more International Pandas to satisfy our Pandaholic addiction as well as we hope NZ and MZ Artificial Inseminations work as we watch the Global Panda Population slowly increase …Yet due to the fact that most of the Pandas in captivity are direct descendants of Pan Pan the Genetic pool is still very fragile…That is why our Pandas are very important in adding more diversification to this small gene pool….We only hope Su Lin has as much success as Hua Mei in the breeding of the future Pandas ….
As Su Lin matures you almost wish that perhaps Shi Shi’s frozen sperm could be used to give us another breeding Panda…..As we all still wonder if Yun Zi will be Bai Yun’s Final Triumph…. Yunior is becoming as big a character as his older brother Mei Sheng and we wonder how long before Bulldozer Bai Yun puts him in his place as she did to his older sisters Su Lin and Zhen Zhen as well as Mei Sheng….LOL….
To all my GPF Family and Friends Lynn is undergoing a surgical procedure tom’w. to remove some of the Stent Filters and debris from the disolving DVT Blood Clots the Medical team will decide if they have to install more or her condition is finally under control…I’ll let you know how she is doing and Thank-You all in advance for your Prayers and Get Well Wishes as she now knows we Global Panda Fans have become a caring helpful family…..She must be getting better as she is complaining daily how much she hates 14 months being confined to a Hospital bed as she never complains…..Hopefully my next conference call with her Doctors will let me know she is coming home or being transferred closer to home….
“Panda Peace on Earth , Goodwill to All Living Things…..”
Noticed that mommie monster had a patch of fur missing right at her rear leg joint.
Wonder if the kid tore it off?
Did Yun Zi mark the water fountain or just scratch his fluffy butt?
Loved all the videos posted today….
Thank you….
Thanks Suzanne for clarifying when the Chinese take over the care of Tai & Lani. ) It’s too bad that there a couple of bloggers that are ready to POUNCE on any info they feel is wrong
For example – it was widely reported that Tai’s NZ keeper felt bad when all Tai’s care was turned over to his Chinese keeper. She had trained Tai to obey hand signals & probably felt his new keeper would like some info & help. And on the other hand, China has obviously asked for Lani’s keeper to stay for a few more days to help her adjust.
:):)
And if this info is wrong please feel to correct
And to those who have reported that my beloved Tai will be on a panda cam – thanks – you have made my day
Tsk, tsk, – how soon some are ready to pounce on what they feel is mis-info. Most of us here on the blog are panda lovers & are looking for info – if we get info from our fellow bloggers – some of it wrong but much of it right & there are links for other info. So if there is what “You” feel is wrong info, please do update us.
I woke up to find they started the Olympics without me….I so wanted to join Yunior on the U. S. A. Sleeping team. I am at least as good as he is sleeping. Well if I cannot be there Yun Zi carry on for our country…good luck and get some pin swapping done. Try not to sleep through the whole thing like me……Love Grammmie
that is so awesome that there will be a panda cam on tai shan. i cant wait . i so miss him. nz is still having problems with camera one, guess after being socked in with 54ins of snow in the last 2 weeks,its a wonder anything works. watched a cute video of lin hui tearing off wallpaper in her den . loved the video of zhennie today . whats the web site for pandas international?
Oh no… another Panda website to go to…
I didn’t know about Pandas International….
#133-Panda Fan North… thanks for the video links. Lin Hui must have some of Su Lin’s decorating talents… she must be tired of the bamboo wallpaper and wants something new. How old is Lin Hui? I’ve never seen the male… does Thailand only have the 2? Was Lin Hui AI’ed? I’m assuming that the “Panda Channel” is LinPing’s TV show? They seem to have a nice outdoor enclosure.. More of the straight tall tress to climb on versus climbing structures like I’ve seen in the US..
Conversation with Gao Gao #72
Gao Gao: Hee hee hee hee!
Tourist: Hello, Gao Gao.
G: Oh, hello, Mr. Tourist.
T: What’s with all the excitement?
G: The Asian Lunar New Years Day is coming!
T: Ah, so out comes your catalogs?
G: Nope, recipe magazines and Mei Sheng’s Kitchen menu.
T: Oh, that’s right. The New Years Eve reunion dinner.
G: Yup, Panda King will take us to a magic meeting place tonight.
T: So who’s bringing what?
G: Hua Mei and Mei Sheng will bring Chinese delicacies.
T: Uh huh.
G: Like the native Chinese bamboos, sugar canes, sweet potatoes…
T: And you’ll bring the American treats.
G: Yup. I’ll make banana cream pie, Tai Shan’s favorite.
T: Oh, so is this it? The cream has a reddish hue.
G: Oh, that’s an auspicious color.
T: I know. But how did you make the cream red?
G: I put in crushed leaf eater biscuits.
T: Oh, that’s right. Tai’s favorite.
(in Bai Yun’s area)
Yun Zi: Mama. The den is stuffed with all manner of nice toys.
Bai Yun: Oh, but they’re really food items for tonight’s feast.
Y: But I didn’t see any milk tanker trucks though.
B: Oh, no need to worry. The tankers will fill the milk bar before the evening.
(At Bifengxia)
Hua Mei: Wow. I can’t wait. The Reunion dinner is tonight.
Mei Sheng: Yeah, Su Lin and Zhen Zhen will bring the American fruitsicles.
H: Cousin Tai was all excited, too.
M: Yeah, I’m glad I left the wired tin can in the quarantine station.
H: Yeah, gotta keep the communication lines clear.
(Quarantine area)
Tai Shan: Hello, hello, HELLO… (speaks into tin can)
Mei Sheng: Hi, Tai Shan. (speaks from Mei Sheng’s area into the other tin can)
T: Any news?
M: Yup. Everything’s set for tonight.
T: How shall we meet?
M: You’ll assign a tree in your yard for each member.
T: Yup.
M: And Panda King will transport us there.
T: Wow. So we toss food from tree to tree?
M: Yup. Should be fun.
P. Wong – many thanks for your high spirited conversations between Tai Shan and his cousins about the Lunar New Year celebrations tonight. We have missed your conversations with Mr. Tourist. I am excited to dream about their Reunion night. I wish Tai Shan and Mei Sheng could somehow really meet for a conversation in the tree tops. They are both very special pandas with lots of energy. I can just imagine how their interaction might have gone, if there was not a very important 2 year difference in their ages. Mei Sheng is now in full breeding age and that is likely what is always on his mind, other than eating of course. Tai on the other hand is not yet fully mature and still enjoys a playful life. To dream.
Thank you P Wong, as always, for your very enjoyable panda conversations.
I’m catching up reading past blogs that I’ve missed. One referred back to 2008 announcement of Shi Shi’s death. I was studying the pictures of ‘Rocky’, and noticed some familiar characteristics. Maybe I’m just missing Tai Shan so much, and I know Shi Shi was rescued from the wild; but I was thinking that Tai Shan and Shi Shi seem to share the same open, bright eyes, shape of head, snout, long lankiness in body and legs. Is there any chance that they are related, possibly way back in the line? Can anyone else see the resemblance?
Two videos from yesterday!
If you just can’t get enough of Yun Zi, the first shows him (again) playing on the drinker and in the bedroom with Bai Yun! Again the SDZ team did a great job of zooming in on Bai and Yun Yun as they interacted.
2010-02-12 Yun Zi: Awww…dorable Moments!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgW1uKKXpWQ
The 2nd comes from snowy Zoo Atlanta! With weaning just around the corner for Xi Lan, he was nursing outdoors during the snowfall. After that it was time to play with Lun, resulting in some memorable moments between these two.
2010-02-12 Xi Lan and Lun Enjoy Their Snow Day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kBKyH2B6uw
Thank you so much for all the wonderful information and work that you do at the zoo. I am a pandaholic and have to get my “fix” every morning and then soime! I have a question tho – do you know anything about the pandas at the Thailand zoo? The momma and baby are so fun to watch, but I’m wondering if they have access to the outside world. It’s fun to watch the keeper wipe down the baby, almost like giving him a massage. Any info. you have would be great! Thanks!
# 147 P Wong – Bravo! Bravo!
#106, Pandafan-north, it’s been Mei Xiang on cam 2 at NZ yesterday and today. Of course that can change if they switch the bears to different habitats. Mei has round eye patches, and Tian’s are more vertical, like an hour-glass.
It looks nice and sunny at SDZ today–while most of us in other parts of the country are cold! Oh well, spring is just around the corner, and with it (we hope) comes birthing season for Memphis and D.C. pandas. Fingers crossed.
Thanks, P Wong–I was hoping there would be a big gettogether for New Years!
I am so happy that we will be able to see Tai Shan on a panda cam. I am praying that there is a Mei Lan fan out there that will do the same for her. I only hope and pray that Tai Shan is doing as well as they say he is. My feelings about sending our pandas to China are very negative.
Ok, I have a question…..let me start by saying that I feel that I am the absolute Tai Shan Fan, I love that adorable baby boy sooo much, and have cried like a baby since he left. Miss his smiling face so much and am thrilled about the Tai Cam. I understand that he is our superstar, just because he is Tai, but, I read an article on cctv where they said that his life will be different from Mei Lan’s because he will be “programmed” to try to be the “stud” that his grandfather Pan Pan was. I can go with that- what I dont understand is why they are making such a big deal of it with Tai, and they didn’t Mei Sheng- arent Tian Tian and Bai Yun sister and brother- so isPan Pan Bai Yun’s father too? Or did they have the same mother bear and not father?
Moderator’s note: Tian Tian, who lives at the National Zoo, and Bai Yun share the same father, Pan Pan.
Dennis, fingers crossed for Lynn tomorrow.
Lovely video of ZZ, DoxieMom; nice to see her again.
P Wong, looks like it’s going to be fun at the Asian New Years Day party!!
I’ve been watching our intrepid duo playing in the sawdust box. They really love it in there!
Panda Annie #31:
Gao Gao’s nicknames (At least for me) are: Gao,Bamboo Machine,Old Gao…etc.
Bai Yun’s nicknames: Madame Bai,Mommy Bai,Big Momma,Bai
Su Lin: Su, Suie, Sissy Lin, Sly Su.(Only when she plays cards)
Zhen Zhen: Zhennie,Princess,Miss Zhen,Zoom Zoom,Zoomer…
Yun Zi: Yunior,Plumpers (He’s been called that since 1st exam!),Chubby Cubby,Heart Breaker,and I like to call him sweetie pie!
P WONG Please take pity on somebody who only discovered the PandaCam the day Prince Fluffy-Butt was born. I have gone back several months, but cannot find the start of your writings. I would like to read them all, as I will eventually read all of the Panda Blogs, but I would like to read them from the start. I keep up with current things, but need to to find out where yours start. Thankfully your format is easy to spot glancing through the comments section. Folks who cannot give themselves time to read the comments sure miss a lot. Thank you for any help you can give me….Love Grammmie P. S. Yunior will give you an extra kiss as a special thank you.
Moderator’s note: I believe P Wong’s first “conversation” with the pandas was sent to the post Surprising Su Lin, dated June 12, 2006.
Wow-what a New Years Party. The whole Panda Royal Family will be in those trees. Are they going to invite the keepers, or do the keepers get to clean up from their own party, then arrive at work the next day to clean up after a party they don’t even know about????? Pandas play the best tricks on the keepers….Love Grammmie
Tales of The Panda Prince
Yun Zi : (chirp) Momma, am I a “Valentine”?
Bai Yun : (smiling) Little Cloud, where have you heard this strange word?
Yun Zi : Keeper Kathy and Anastasia. Almost everyday this week now, when they come to bring me from the classroom. They call me “Little Valentine” and scratch my back Momma. Sometimes they will roll me around or tickle me under my chin. I like it when they scratch my back Momma, it feels like that sawdust in the playhouse. (chirp!!)
Bai Yun : (smiling) Well my precious cub, it is that time of the year when the humans choose one of their kind, one that makes their heart feel warm and happy, to give them treats and make them feel special. It is a playful day for them, and it is called “Valentine’s Day”. We may even see the humans try to nuzzle each other in the viewing area! (chuckling) The humans can look so cute and silly when they play.
Yun Zi : (rolling on back, chuckling) Momma, the Keepers make my heart feel warm and happy too. Does that mean I am their Valentine and I can nuzzle them on their special day?
Bai Yun : (raised eye patches) Well, only if you promise to be extra, extra careful Little Cloud. Remember our lessons about the different types of fur. The light brown fur is very thin and it will tear quite easily. You must be gentle with your claws and no more showing off those new teeth (chuckling). Just a light nuzzle and none of those ear nips you have been practicing. (nipping at Yun Zi’s tiny ear)
Yun Zi : (chirp!!, giggle) Ok Momma
Bai Yun : (gentle smile) Just remember you are my Valentine too, Little Cloud! (nuzzle)
I just glanced at Lin Pings Page………….She is quite the little princess-and adorable…almost as adorable as Prince Fluffy Butt…..Love Grammmie
# 139 CLAUDIA—so you were the one in my head. A silly sense of Humor is not available to everyone, but my dad passed his on to me.
You should definitely wrap the kitty present–how else would she know it is a gift?????
It would be a kick to see our whole Panda Royal Family trying to climb the trees with their royal garb on, swords, scepters, crowns, etc. I guess the smart ones will have most of that stuff up the tree so they can climb with the food. Do you know if Bobbi Wood or DoxieMom will be on hand to record the fun??? What would we do without them and their friends to keep us amused when we cannot see the lovely Pandas live??? Love Grammmie
#147 P Wong that was a neat story about the Lunar New Year and all the pandas. But you left out one very special panda Mei Lan she needs to be there also with all her US born pandas.
#146 Dianna you’re right about Lin Hui I have watched her a couple tearing down some of the bamboo wallpaper in her enclosure I think she wants the real stuff.
Don’t miss the pictures and video of Long Hui and Yang Yang enjoying each other’s company in snowy Vienna. pandanews dot wordpress dot com
Note to Keeper Kathy, my daughter just called me and told me what an awesome time she had with you and the pandas this morning. What a wonderful job you all do there. Thanks a lot. Now back to watching the panda cam…my daily fix of black and white fun.
Donna (Mel’s mom)
OOH! I’m THRILLED that we will get to see Tai on webcam! Way to go anonymous donor.
I only discovered Tai the last couple of months, but he won my heart. There is definitely something special about that bear.
I was also happy to discover that Lin Ping and I share a birthday. lol According to a YT video I found of her birthday she was born on May 26th. I’ve been watching a lot of her. She’s like the female Yun Zi. Those two make me smile daily, as do all the other pandas.
Panda peace!
I was checking in on Yunior and he was at the milk bar fulling up for the evening.
Also I looked in on Lin Ping and they were dressing her up for the Lunar New Year or Valentine Day I’m not sure which.
P Wong, you always crack me up with your “Conversations with Gao Gao.” I read one to my pet Major Mitchell Cockatoo and he remarked “Love it, love it!”
#147 P. Wong – you put a smile on my face! Thank you! Tossing food from tree to tree – too funny! I can see it now – a little boo here, some cream over there, biscuits on the next one, and a fruitsicle for all!
Happy Valentine’s Day Panda Fans…..remember Monday is the deadline for the RSVP for the convention, but money not due until March 1st. Treat yourself and your Valentine!!!! We can send a kiss through one of the keepers meeting with us at the special program to Yun Zi!! At our black and white dinner we will have name tags with a Panda photo, awards, and even a surprise from one of the fans. Ears are being made for some, and make up too. What a hoot!!! We need to see him while he is still small….come join us and meet other Pandaholics.
Happy Valentine’s Day to all the beautful animals at the SDZ, the staff, and all the panda fans!!!!!
What’s Kathy doing with Yunior? Is she wrangling him? He looks soooo big.
Thanks #9 Dee in Texas for the wonderful pictures! We surely have the most beautilful bears in the world!
And, #43 pandafan-north, Funi sure is a fun-loving girl. I bet Simone doesn’t need to go to the gym with her little pal to play with. It’s so funny that some pandas seem to love water and others can’t stand it. Thanks, so much, for sharing.
I never seem to be watching or catch a good time when YunZi is nursing. I am watching a very special moment right now YunZi nursing and BaiYun being the bestest of the best mama’s ever……………..she is sooooooooooooo good with the little man……He is growing sooooooooooo fast…..too fast (boo-hoo).
I have a question. When Pandas are in the wild, do they have as much play time with their cubs? I would think that they would have to be repeatedly gathering bamboo, which would be time consuming, in addition to eating, nursing, and sleeping. Someone pointed out to me that their diet is mostly carbohydrate (is that true…bamboo?) which in people, makes them sleepy and is not highly efficient like protein.
Thank you so much to everyone for all the links, stories. I have been thoroughly introduced to the many bears in different zoos, the geneology and habits of the bears, enjoy the stories you make up which make me laugh. I belly laugh with the videos, and my husband always knows I’m watching pandas by my laughter. (Although he refuses to watch one more panda video. Oh well, it is his loss). This blog is so special, down to noticing the really small differences between pandas as one gets to know them, such as the circles around the eyes, or body shape. I begin to recognize many of you, and enjoy spending time each evening reading this blog. Thanks.
Panda fans, here’s a good look at Zhuang Zhuang who is Lin Ping’s father in Chiang Mai, Thailand. He is as goofy as they come. Watch him grab the two tires as he somersault’s down the hill. He reminds me of Tian Tian at NZ and Yang Yang at AZ. The second half is of Lin Ping with his keepers. She’s a wild one, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1mkvUnJmHs&feature=related
Enjoy!!
AJ: Hey Lin Ping, way to go, loved your fall from the tree. You really are something else!
LP: (giggles) I wanted to surprise Mommie but I forgot how big I had grown. The branch couldn’t hold me.
AJ: And you got to go to that cool place to get photos of your insides.
LP: I was sleeping most of the time, they gave me a sharpie. Ouch!
YZ: Mommie wont let me climb very far yet.
AJ: Yes, she has been talking to my Mommie, I think she is learning a few things for Da Mommie Monster.
YZ: Normally Mommie is calm and serene, now she is playful and plays tricks on me.
LP: My Mommie too, she is always holding me down, dragging me and tumbling me.
YZ: Yeah, and my Mommie uses all four paws and treats me like a ball….
AJ: But the girlies like it and they will go ‘ooooooh and awwwww!’
YZ: Girlies?
LP: I think Yunnie is too young AJ. Hee Hee. Wait a few more months more then you can tell him.
AJ: Maybe his daddy Gao Gao will! I am the Son of Yang, born to bless the beauties.
LP: ROFLOL!
YZ: I dont understand…..
AJ: You soon will, just enjoy the milk bar while it lasts.
LP: My Mommie and I have been eating boo together. I like that.
AJ: I love attacking her while she is eating her boo!
YZ: YES! I learnt some of your moves and have attacked her butt and neck folds. ‘Not the ears, leave the ears alone’ – my Mommie is vain about her perfectly shaped ears, hee hee!
LP: gtg, my keeper wants to play. I think it is bath time.
YZ: Bath? YuCK.
AJ: bb, cya.
YZ: Tomorrow, log on same time?
AJ: When the Mommie Monsters are asleep, hee hee.
YZ: Panda Cubs Unite!
AJ: Panda Cubs Unite!
Doxiemom, love your videos as usual. Our chub muffin is so round. He is like a weeble. I loved how he bites mom’s face and then I guess he bites to hard so she bites him back. That is how to teach him a lesson.
Moderator – I notice how Bai Yun sits and drinks her water,her hands wrapped around the bowl, do all the panda’s drink like that? I had to laugh, it reminded me of my younger days after a long night of partying.. I think you all get my drift…
thanks for all the wonderful info, I love reading the blogs and learning about these beautiful animals and all the other great animals at the zoo. The close up shots of all the bears have been great, they are all BEAUTIFUL. Watching Yunnie and mom do brighten up my day for sure. Too bad he sleeps so much. Wish I could……
Tiny #161–(chirp)–very cute Valentine’s Day story!
Fellow GPF’s, here are two videos to watch – bittersweet, but great watching. They are both about Tai Shan.
Tai plays in the deep snow, then says goodbye to Mei Xiang (great close-ups):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5NODjsS5DQ&feature=related
Then, here is a great clip from the Smithsonian Magazine on Tai’s history at the zoo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvD1AngVGew&feature=related
Enjoy!!
Conversation with Gao Gao #73
Gao Gao: Hee hee hee hee!
Tourist: Hello, Gao Gao.
G: Oh, hello, Mr. Tourist.
T: Now you’re chuckling again.
G: Oh, we had lots of fun.
T: Oh, yes. Your Lunar New Years Day celebrations.
G: First we stopped at Bifengxia for New Years Eve family reunion dinner.
T: Wow, I bet you had lots to eat.
G: We ate while swinging upside down on tree limbs.
T: Who was on the highest limb?
G: Tai Shan had the highest tree.
T: So the food toss must have been an Olympian feat.
G: Yeah, I won gold medal.
T: You won gold medal?
G: I tossed from the lowest limb.
T: So all the food was eaten?
G: All except some banana cream pies.
T: The red cream was a put off?
G: Mei Lan ate the rest. She hankered for bananas and leaf eater biscuits.
T: She was at Bifengxia, too?
G: No, at Chengdu Reserve.
T: Oh, so Panda King took you there, huh?
G: That’s where we did our customary New Years Day greetings and visitations.
T: That must have been exciting.
G: We exchanged food treats and red envelopes.
T: Red envelopes?
G: Yup.
T: What was in those red envelopes?
G: Our special panda currency.
T: Hmmm. Let me guess…
G: Hee hee.
T: Were they smelly?
G: Mine had aged stinky tofu.
T: Oh, no.
G: Very very pungent.
T: Why would you do such a thing?
G: Hee hee hee. It got me lots of dinner dates.
# 177 LUCILLA Well somebody has sparked some imaginations…fantasstic conversation…sounds just like the cubs we all know and love…love grammmie
I looked at the comments, and no one mentioned the incident that occurred Saturday evening. Pam T. #168 mentioned the nursing session on the Garden Room platform, but not what happened prior to that.
The camera was zoomed in on Yun Zi on the platform when his mother Bai joined him. He appeared to want to play or nurse. Bai didn’t seem that interested. By mistake, Bai pushed Yun Zi off the platform. This video shows what happened leading up the incident, and what followed once they returned to the platform.
If you missed it, the video link is:
2010-02-13 Yun Zi: Nudged Off and Nursed On the Platform!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4hzP9iJxzY
# 176 pandafan-north – Thanks for the video of Lin’s (Lin is a she, btw) daddy. Now we know who she takes after cause her mama is pretty calm, from everything I’ve seen.
I also found out that Lin was born the day after me, not the same day. Ah well, we can still celebrate together when I go to Thailand (in my dreams).
Thanks Doxiemom for the wonderful vids of our lil Yunior and mama.
P. Wong you’ve done it again. Sounds like the USA pandas and their families had a great time at the Lunar New Year celebrations.
Lucilla, #177, sounds like the three cubs had a great conversation. I had to think about who AJ was, but realized it was Xi Lan.
Gao Gao must be a happy fellow… he’s always giggling
Panda Fan North – Thank you for the video of Lin Ping’s dad… Little Miss Lin Ping definitely takes after Dad… she’s inherited his love of standing on his head…
Thank you, DoxieMom, for solving that mystery for me. I had just taken a postcard of Yun Zi nursing, and when I got back to pandacam, poof!, the platform was empty. I didn’t know what had happened, though I saw the nursing session continue later on. I think they need a bigger platform since they play so much!
P Wong–I hope you can get Gao Gao to post his photos…
a year ago that I hoped that this year we’d be looking at picrutes of Su Lin’s new cub; now we are doing just that! It was not only a fervent wish I absolutely *believed* that this would be. And haven’t they given her a nice home to live in? I was very impressed when I saw the video. Now, the last remnants of whatever sadness we felt when Su Lin had to move to China are entirely swept away there’s another panda in the world, which is what it’s all about. She’ll be a good mother, like her own mother before her. And to all of you at the Giant Panda Research station who have known Su Lin since she was an ultrasound image and trained her and cared for her for 5 years, many, many thanks for the good work that you do. Another San Diego-born panda is proving to be a success, Bai Yun is the grandmother of 9, maybe more, depending on what we hear of Mei Sheng in the near future, Gao Gao’s a grandfather for sure now you’re right, this was certainly a day to remember!
Wow the imaginations have gone wild…and wonderful. I love all the conversations–but the favorite line for me was “Panda Cubs Untite”—I could see the 3 babies recite that in my mind—with silly grins on their faces and a proud fist in the air. Panda Lovers Unite—now throw the flower in your hand their way, while they enjoy the silly grin on your faces.
With some help I am going back in the blogs to start reading P WONG’S writings—It will take time to catch up but well worth it. They are so creative and vivid—I cannot help but imagine Gao Gao with a smiling face and glasses, but have no idea why. Is his sight failing or does he think they make him look wise???????? Love Grammmie
Zhuang sure likes to redecorate his area too! Ripped that palm tree right out and then decided it wasn’t for eating…..so he rolled in the dirt and now he is a brown bear!
I had to go back and watch DoxieMom’s video again, Yun Zi disappeared so fast I missed it the first time! I just love the way panda mums race to check on their little ones.